Jerk strings vs mojo's

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Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Fowl'in up NORTH » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:18 am

Hi guys I was just wondering what your use to get motion in you spread I have herd a lot but I want the pros opinion before I go out and spend some $$$$$ also how many deke's on a jerk string and how many of them do you run and vis versa for the mojo's?
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby jon mcgrath » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:26 pm

I think I have about 3 decoys on my jerk string. I dont think anymore than that would really matter. It's just enough to get some ripples in the water.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby shoot-n-goose » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:07 pm

Only used a mojo once, and for about ten minutes before we stashed it in the cat tails.

I much prefer a jerk string, also put 3 deeks on it
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Fowl'in up NORTH » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:33 pm

Thanks guys I think I will go down the jerk string path but is the rig'em right worth buying it or not
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby shoot-n-goose » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:01 pm

You can make one for less then half the cost of theirs. The grapple anchor can be bought at marine supply stores or even Cabelas. You can use 100ft of 550 paracord (~$8) or just about any string and some small carabiners or fishing snap swivels to attach the decoy to the line. Throw in an old bungie cord, or if you like spend a dollar and get some 1/4" shock cord from a marine supplier
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Ichabod97 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:01 pm

definitely build your own jerk string. save yourself some $$$. I built one for the last couple weeks of the season. works good and i have 5 GWT on it. During the beginning of the season we were running 2 mojo teal and occassionally a wind duck. I was also running 2 weasel ball dekes and ended up building 2 more. Excellent mod to add water motion to your spread. Cheap too. There is a link floating around in the decoy forum on how to make them.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby alanwebfoot » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:46 pm

I'll probably stir up a hornets nest on this one but I think mojo's are overrated ,I hunt with a guy who uses one and it's constant trouble with that flimsy pole wanting to drop the duck inthe drink!! especially after the early morning fog or mist has lifted and the birds can see that pole from 60 or 70 yards ,jmo but get a jerk string for much more realistic movement!!
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby SPatrick » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:36 pm

I am a much bigger fan of Jerk cords, especially when not hunting public walkin type areas. If I am hunting a public area I usually have several spinners out, mainly because of ease of use. Now IMO I feel that the jerk cords are much more effective, they can be a pain in the *** if you are walking in somewhere though, especially timber and buck brush. Avery makes some no head feeder decoys I like to use 4 of those and tie them up as my jerk string decoys. And truthfully, I hate mojo, and everything about them. I think they are a crap company that has resorted to putting out a crap product, and have ZERO customer service. I will actually never buy another mojo item ever made. I will buy higdon, or edge stuff from here on out. Old mojo's were semi durable, and could take several seasons worth of use, todays mojo's you are lucky to get 10 hunts out of them if that. I have had more than 3 that have only gotten 1 hunt or less without breaking, and that is without going under water. sorry for the rant. :thumbsup:
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby duckstopper333 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:58 pm

I realize that there's a lot of anti-MoJo people out there and they often tell how much better a jerk cord rig can be. I've used MoJo's and found them to be very effective at times. Once you've set them up on a good pole with a charged battery they're pretty much trouble free. Add remote control and there's very little the hunter has to do with them during the hunt.

Jerk cords need an operator and that's the main reason I've stayed away from them. I really don't want to be operating the cord, calling, and holding my gun when birds are working my decoys. Instead of a jerk cord I've used a Wonder Duck "Tornado" decoy or one of that companies paddle wheel decoys. Both of these stir up the water pretty well. Just another tool to use during the hunt.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:29 am

I have both, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd take the spinner and never look back. And if I lived in the North, as your net name suggests, where the birds have seen fewer of them than by the time they get to this end of the flyway, or in an area where dry field hunting for ducks held promise, that same decision would be even easier. If I weren't confident in my calling or blinding, easier still.

The spinner is a much more versatile (and mobile) tool. It will provide stronger initial attraction to more birds in many more settings than a jerk cord, and with a good remote setup, can be used just as a tease, like a jerk cord, for wary close birds. And it will do so while drawing attention away from your hide, when the movement of operating a jerk cord, per se, may actually be drawing attention to you.

I've eliminated the "jerk cord" shortcoming of movement at the blind by using a Mallard Machine hardwired to power and control from deep in my pit. The trolling motor foot driven MM is easily manipulated from a gentle dip to a rolling boil at the touch of the button, so it's a pretty sweet rig, particularly in a nasty spot like my floating marsh "Mudhole blind," where line operated decoys wouldn't just be one more hassle for the dog but might not want to move at all:
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The three coots on the middle left are my "jerk cord" decoys that can't be fouled by floating black dirt-bergs, other flotant or suspended humus below, like my line attempts have been. I think they're a slick, if expensive, rig, but as noted above, I can't credit them with nearly the usefulness of my spinner. Mostly just something to let me feel like I'm doing something about it when the water's flat calm - and I'll add that their use has generally (teal excluded) proven much easier over- than under-done. Aside from that, I've found my MM most useful, at least on calm days, to draw big ducks' attention from the blind while my less-than-stealthful hunter's ease (OK, duck) down.

While I find a spinner more useful and versatile, "The Robo bringeth, and the Robo sendeth away." A lot of the birds a spinner initially attracts are going to smell the rat and push off before coming in range. A good caller with a good hide can usually beat it for big ducks, at least by the time they're down here on the PhD end of the flyway and have been shot at by gosh knows how many spinners along the way. Might be others can turn more distant teal with a call than with a spinner, but I can't come close to matching the spinner in that situation, so my rule of thumb is: spinner on for teal and off as soon as big ducks are spotted, or not used at all if teal aren't about or wanted. (Definitely off when geese show.) If, however, my calling weren't turning the big duck trick or drawing attention from our hide was necessary, I'd want to see if what birds the spinner eventually pushed off weren't the lesser of evils. Also let the spinner run to up my guys' chances of gunning in my absence when I need to jump in the Go-Devil and chase long-flying cripples. And I'm not too proud to give mine a quick spin at the tails of birds that have shut off my call or set-up, like one might flip a flag (or toss his hat) for another crack at geese that have pushed off.

I'll add, on a personal note, that even after years of using it, I remain philosophically opposed to the use of any electronics in waterfowling and find spinners about as esthetically pleasing as a flashing neon sign would be in the field. I much prefer the idea of a hand operated motion devise. But I took the question to be one of effectiveness, and the above is my response to that.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby duckstopper333 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:37 am

Rick Hall: I found your comments about teal interesting because in the terrain we often hunt, flooded brush and small trees, water 1-4 feet deep, teal don't seem to pay attention to spinners or even calling. They'll either fly by or just drop right in to a handful of motionless decoys.

One of the advantages of spinners (or other motion decoys) is that you can run them continually which often makes up for hunters inattentiveness. When we're discussing world problems while standing up in the blind we'll often have a duck drop right in because of the spinners.

As far as effectiveness spinners can be a great tool early in the season especially when migrants are moving into an area. We've had whole flocks (25+ birds) of black ducks and mallards drop from a great height because of our spinners. Good calling when they make close passes can "seal the deal". As far as spooking birds the only time we've had that problem was when we first started using spinners we had them on 10 foot poles. That didn't work and they would spook when they got close. We now run the spinners no more that 5 feet above the water. We've also noticed that some birds show no interest in either spinners or calling and just fly by.

If spinners are ever outlawed it wouldn't be that big a deal because location, staying hidden, and good calling still seem to out weigh spinners, IMO.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:24 am

duckstopper333 wrote:Rick Hall: I found your comments about teal interesting because in the terrain we often hunt, flooded brush and small trees, water 1-4 feet deep, teal don't seem to pay attention to spinners or even calling. They'll either fly by or just drop right in to a handful of motionless decoys.


Your experience has differed greatly from mine. After extensive experimenting with spinners, primarily in open rice country, since the first season they were readily available, I decided they were generally more bane than boon for big ducks and retired them to the decoy shed - except for the September teal season. While we have little trouble drawing teal to relatively open water flooded field spreads employing scads of decoys, such big floods and spreads are generally impractical in September. Indeed, one may have little or no open water at all in a second crop field, but a spinner will still usually pull them to the guns there:
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And where there is open water, even a small spinner can replace a lot of decoys:
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Then I moved my regular season morning blind to a small pothole in the big coastal marsh, where despite greenwings being the runaway number one duck in Southwest Louisiana bags, big ducks were our mainstay. We still shot a few teal, but nothing like what was taken by our bigger water marsh blinds nearby. Mostly we watched balls of teal buzz the more open water well out in front of my blind or sometimes frustratingly close behind it between big duck opportunities, which was fine until those big duck opportunities slowed to a trickle near that first season's end. Then coming out with relative handful of big ducks and teal, while the other blinds were limiting on teal became an issue this guide couldn't ignore, out came the spinner for the season's final week or so, and we were suddenly in the thick of the teal game and limiting on days when little or nothing else flew. Been keeping one out there for the teal ever since, and its made an unquestionably significant impact on our teal take.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby toptrigger » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:44 pm

Spinners are like training wheels for duck hunters. Just learn to call.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby TomKat » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:48 pm

I have seen the light- spinners do in fact work. I know how to call; I have a rig 'em right and I will soon have a mojo. I am going to use all of them.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby grnhd » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:49 pm

toptrigger wrote:Spinners are like training wheels for duck hunters. Just learn to call.


Thats BS...not all ducks will work to a call all the time...just like all ducks wont work a spinner all the time.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby emusmacker » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:09 pm

I have a mojo mallard with a remote on it and it works great. Also it has been shot and dropped and hunted with for several seasons. No issues. also can buy replacement parts.

Also think a jerk string is a great idea. Only problem I have is if I'm hunting alone, it's harder to pull the jerk string, blow the call and then shoulder my gun whereas with my mojo I hit the button on the remote and it's on or off.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby huntinlabs » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:12 pm

i like them both and use them both as there are normally 4 guys hunting with me at all times we usually use about 6 or so spinners and every one has a jerk string in there hand but then again we hunt big water where bigger is better so we normally have about 10-15 doz decoys out to but i second not buying mojo all i own is edge and love them...
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby fireman1293 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:55 pm

Everyone has great points and their own personal experiences. I've seen ducks almost land on top of a mojo, but for late season ducks in Missouri this last season if you called they flew off. I know you guys will be right behind me with the "be a better caller" jokes. I really don't care because when they get like that I put out my jerk rig and pull a couple times to get their attention and they drop right in. For weary birds that have seen all the toys (mojos, flashers, etc.) a jerk rig is a easy tool to use as long as you don't get caught by the birds while pulling.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby FowlOffspring » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:53 pm

for everyone who is saying that it would be hard to call and pull on the string at the same time,its not.my dad and i run 2 jerk strings and both call at the same time and when the birds are dropping in,you just empty your hands and pick up your gun.true,it draws attention to you when youre pulling on the string but we in oregon dont have much of a choice.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby cut'em44 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:22 pm

im goin with the mojo, in teal season and during our first half of duck season the mojo is killer and will add more birds to your bag. Now come late season the mojo's go up and i pull out about a half dozen of my best lookin decoys put a few on a jerk string and put thte calls up and most of the time still pull my limits on mallards. But that is in Northeast Texas which in early season bigger is better, and in late season less is more.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby Mallard Cutter » Sun May 29, 2011 5:12 am

I only use the jerk string with two decoys on it.Puts plenty of ripples in the water and gets the ducks down for me.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby pgquackstacker » Mon May 30, 2011 10:29 pm

Teal absolutely love the spinners around here, but a jerk chord is a very sound investment :thumbsup:
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby mudpack » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:54 pm

I hate mojos'. I hate the expense, the hassle, the constant flashing, the constant noise.
But, I've seen too many times someone with a mojo (or three) pull birds that were headed for my spread.
I hate them, I won't use them, but they can be very effective.

I use a jerk string instead, but I'm sure at the end of the season the mojo would have outpulled the string.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby labmanlyle » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:12 am

cut'em44 wrote:im goin with the mojo, in teal season and during our first half of duck season the mojo is killer and will add more birds to your bag. Now come late season the mojo's go up and i pull out about a half dozen of my best lookin decoys put a few on a jerk string and put thte calls up and most of the time still pull my limits on mallards. But that is in Northeast Texas which in early season bigger is better, and in late season less is more.



This is very true. Especially in Texas.
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Re: Jerk strings vs mojo's

Postby labmanlyle » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:23 am

I have a baby mojo, mojo teal, and big mojo mallard. plus two different jerk rigs. One for deep water with and one I use in the marsh. They are set up a little different. I believe to constantly get your limits you need to be prepared and have the right equipment for that hunt that day. Last year at the end of the season I was have trouble getting birds to commit. I was just using a spread of about a dozen dekes in this slough I was hunting.(real still water) I ordered me a jerk rig and the next hunt it was like magic. The birds dropped right in the spread. I'll never forget that sight of those mallards coming down through those dead trees in the slough and the sun had just broke to where the colors on the birds was real bright. If you want to always be able to get birds you need to have every tool out there. Also the more experience you have the better you will get
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