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Water Swatter!

Postby HonkQuackBang » Thu May 17, 2012 5:58 am

Hey guys!

Had a debate with some friends about swattin' those ducks on water.Now i can only speak for myself "Have never done it and wont either!" But a few friends say when you see divers goin' down to feed they are under water for 15-20 seconds and when you put so much time and patience ito closing in on them you should swat like hell! I cant see the point in killin ducks on water but thats me i suppose!

Its not illegal over here or anything just a bit unorthodox!

Anyway wanted to know what you guys thought?
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby flight control » Thu May 17, 2012 6:56 am

I dont know if this counts as water swatting but this can be a lot of fun with divers. You sneak up on a bunch of divers feeding near shore.Wait until most of them are submerged,jump the ones on the water and shoot.Reload as fast as you can and the others will come up running on the water. I like to wait until they are airborne, so its really more like jump shooting.If you are interested, there was a recent thread in the HH about water swatting ( I think it was the HH )
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby BGipson » Thu May 17, 2012 7:41 am

Here's the thread if you are interested in reading through. Your situation is a bit different than what most on here are debating though. Personally I don't like shooting birds on the water because I feel you don't get clean kills nearly as often but that's just me.

http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=163661
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby dakotashooter2 » Thu May 17, 2012 7:49 am

Ducks on the water = fish in a barrel......................... not much sport to it.............
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Fri May 18, 2012 2:22 pm

aint nuthin like a good ole ground pound! if i can shoot a limit with one shot i'll do it in a heartbeat! i'm all about effeciency!
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby noweil » Fri May 18, 2012 3:19 pm

We have an 85 year old man hunting with us and I will often let him swat one on the water and then I shoot the flying birds. If geese come in and get on the water before the shot is called. I would much rather see them jumped by water swatting a bird. It seems like the jumped birds will be better shots. If you stand up to jump them they will usually turn tail to you and take off. I don't like shooting geese in the butt.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby River Ramblin' Man » Sat May 19, 2012 2:40 pm

People may hate water swatting, but I'll swat away. Just me.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby saw83 » Sat May 19, 2012 3:00 pm

Youth hunts and finishing off cripped birds, thats it for me. But to each his own! Don't over bag, contribute to wetlands and have a fun time :thumbsup:
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby dakotashooter2 » Sat May 19, 2012 7:40 pm

duckman2525 wrote:aint nuthin like a good ole ground pound! if i can shoot a limit with one shot i'll do it in a heartbeat! i'm all about effeciency!



Just out of curiosity what do you do for the rest of the day?
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Sun May 20, 2012 12:40 am

dakotashooter2 wrote:
duckman2525 wrote:aint nuthin like a good ole ground pound! if i can shoot a limit with one shot i'll do it in a heartbeat! i'm all about effeciency!



Just out of curiosity what do you do for the rest of the day?


whatever the heck i want...go to work, spend time with my family, sleep, eat...killin one bird an hour is for the birds...i'm all about a quick limit, thats what timber huntin is all about...big groups and quick limits, the quicker the better
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Sun May 20, 2012 12:45 am

dakotashooter2 wrote:Ducks on the water = fish in a barrel......................... not much sport to it.............


ALL i hunt is flooded timber, when you get a big group of mallards all the way down to the water in public timber you've done something right...a duck on the water has been called and worked as far as you can possibly work him (job well done) so shooting him where he sits only makes perfect sense me...why flush a big group only to watch the majority fly away when you can tear into them right on the spot at 20 yards or less????? :huh:
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby BGipson » Sun May 20, 2012 7:13 am

Because if you have the skill to fool the bird all the way in you should also have the skill to hit him while he is still moving... When you FLOCK shoot at birds on the water there is no way to control what you will incidentally hit aka hens. I've got no problem with people killing hens if that's what they like doing but personally I like my birds on the wing so that I am in control of what is falling. And anyone can fool the birds once, the question is can you continue to do it and pull out 1 bird at time until you've got limits. Last I looked there was no race or winner in duck hunting so why rush something you enjoy? Unless you're in it solely for the killing :no:
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Sun May 20, 2012 1:38 pm

BGipson wrote:Because if you have the skill to fool the bird all the way in you should also have the skill to hit him while he is still moving... When you FLOCK shoot at birds on the water there is no way to control what you will incidentally hit aka hens. I've got no problem with people killing hens if that's what they like doing but personally I like my birds on the wing so that I am in control of what is falling. And anyone can fool the birds once, the question is can you continue to do it and pull out 1 bird at time until you've got limits. Last I looked there was no race or winner in duck hunting so why rush something you enjoy? Unless you're in it solely for the killing :no:


i enjoy all aspects of duck hunting but at the end of the day the only reason i'm out there is to KILL. I like shooting ducks close, the closer the better. i will not take a shot outside of 30 yards in the timber. if they are on the water and present a good shot, i take it....thats how we hunt down here in the woods
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby River Ramblin' Man » Sun May 20, 2012 2:42 pm

I'll water swat sometimes, but wouldn't do it for an entire limit. Guys will set there and say that water swatting is "too easy," but from my experience shooting a mallard back peddling at 20 yards is just as easy. I've had days when it was wavy and they'd try to time there landing between waves. I probably could have hit them with a .22. But I'm not out there just to kill. And I love laying into a bunch of teal as they fly straight up above the blind. Though I will swat, I usually shoot on the wing.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby PungoShoresOutdoors » Sun May 20, 2012 8:12 pm

We all hunt to kill ducks. Whether that be for the killing, which is all some care about, or the enjoyment of the entire experience, which most of us care about, in the end the goal is to kill birds. While I have a great time hunting regardless of what I bring home, if I never killed birds, I would not be hunting. Shoot them on the water or shoot them in the air, it doesnt matter. Dead is dead. I would prefer to shoot a bird out of the air, simply because it is more challenging and is what it "wingshooting" is about. However I have shot many birds off of the water and have absolutely no problem doing it. As others have said, if youve called and decoyed the birds right, you've won the battle. Kill them how you want. If all you care about is shooting ability, shoot skeet.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Sun May 20, 2012 11:48 pm

PungoShoresOutdoors wrote:We all hunt to kill ducks. Whether that be for the killing, which is all some care about, or the enjoyment of the entire experience, which most of us care about, in the end the goal is to kill birds. While I have a great time hunting regardless of what I bring home, if I never killed birds, I would not be hunting. Shoot them on the water or shoot them in the air, it doesnt matter. Dead is dead. I would prefer to shoot a bird out of the air, simply because it is more challenging and is what it "wingshooting" is about. However I have shot many birds off of the water and have absolutely no problem doing it. As others have said, if youve called and decoyed the birds right, you've won the battle. Kill them how you want. If all you care about is shooting ability, shoot skeet.


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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby Rick Hall » Mon May 21, 2012 4:58 am

I was brought on by men who might have taken a beating before they'd shoot a sitting bird that didn't gobble. It just wasn't done, so I didn't do it.

Now I live in a region where it's pretty common and generally accepted practice, but by the time I moved here, I was well beyond the point where I've felt the need for a bird badly enough to skillet shoot it, so I haven't.

That said, I've started both grandsons old enough to shoot by encouraging them to shoot sitting ducks. Plainly I figured it would do them more good than harm.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby BGipson » Mon May 21, 2012 7:48 am

Rick Hall wrote:I was brought on by men who might have taken a beating before they'd shoot a sitting bird that didn't gobble. It just wasn't done, so I didn't do it.

Now I live in a region where it's pretty common and generally accepted practice, but by the time I moved here, I was well beyond the point where I've felt the need for a bird badly enough to skillet shoot it, so I haven't.

That said, I've started both grandsons old enough to shoot by encouraging them to shoot sitting ducks. Plainly I figured it would do them more good than harm.


x2 my dog might get thrown off if I shot the water since everything has always fallen from the sky for her :lol3:
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby Indiancreekducks87 » Mon May 21, 2012 12:03 pm

I consider myself a conservationist..... I conserve ammo by takin em out on the water...
If it flies it dies, and if it sits there it still dies.. Don't even think twice bout.. But to each his own.. Just don't pass judgement on others for their beliefs... Way I see it is it ain't illegal so no harm...
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby BGipson » Mon May 21, 2012 1:26 pm

Indiancreekducks87 wrote:I consider myself a conservationist..... I conserve ammo by takin em out on the water...
If it flies it dies, and if it sits there it still dies.. Don't even think twice bout.. But to each his own.. Just don't pass judgement on others for their beliefs... Way I see it is it ain't illegal so no harm...


In some states it is but in others it is not... Texas I assume it is legal
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckbuster06 » Mon May 21, 2012 1:35 pm

BGipson wrote:
Indiancreekducks87 wrote:I consider myself a conservationist..... I conserve ammo by takin em out on the water...
If it flies it dies, and if it sits there it still dies.. Don't even think twice bout.. But to each his own.. Just don't pass judgement on others for their beliefs... Way I see it is it ain't illegal so no harm...


In some states it is but in others it is not... Texas I assume it is legal


This brings up a good point. What states consider it illegal to shoot a duck on the water?
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby Indiancreekducks87 » Mon May 21, 2012 1:45 pm

Very legal... Lol.. I can honestly say I obey the laws and since it's not illegal then I see no issue... It's not that I can't make long shots when they are in flight cause I'm perfectly capable.. I figure after planting and brushing blinds all summer, putting out dekes every morning, and callin em to the water I'm entitled to ground swat em if I want...
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby duckman2525 » Mon May 21, 2012 4:48 pm

Indiancreekducks87 wrote:Very legal... Lol.. I can honestly say I obey the laws and since it's not illegal then I see no issue... It's not that I can't make long shots when they are in flight cause I'm perfectly capable.. I figure after planting and brushing blinds all summer, putting out dekes every morning, and callin em to the water I'm entitled to ground swat em if I want...


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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby BGipson » Mon May 21, 2012 5:07 pm

duckbuster06 wrote:
BGipson wrote:
Indiancreekducks87 wrote:I consider myself a conservationist..... I conserve ammo by takin em out on the water...
If it flies it dies, and if it sits there it still dies.. Don't even think twice bout.. But to each his own.. Just don't pass judgement on others for their beliefs... Way I see it is it ain't illegal so no harm...


In some states it is but in others it is not... Texas I assume it is legal


This brings up a good point. What states consider it illegal to shoot a duck on the water?


South Dakota is illegal to shoot any bird on the ground (besides turkey). Ducks, geese, pheasant, doves, etc all have to be flying.
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Re: Water Swatter!

Postby bkmaine » Tue May 22, 2012 6:30 am

"I generally hesitate to weigh in on questions of "hunting ethics," which usually involve more aesthetic than ethical issues. One or two examples may illustrate the point. Shooting ducks on the wing is one case: true devotees of duck hunting insist upon the necessity of a "rule" to shoot ducks only on "the wing," i.e. in the air, and not while they are at rest on the water. The phrase "sitting duck" captures the essence of unsporting practice-the shooting at any target that is not "fair game." And yet, shooting a duck on the water may be a far more deadly shot, more likely to kill the bird cleanly, more guaranteed to put a bird "in the bag" than an ethically riskier shot at a duck flying straightaway at a high speed over forty yards distant. "Potting" ducks (as in killing a duck for the pot, i.e. as food) on the water in the latter case is simply a violation of the aesthetic norms that make duck hunting, duck hunting. The question of how ducks are shot during the course of duck hunting is thus largely (not entirely) an aesthetic issue and not an ethical one at all. This distinction is often misunderstood by hunters as well as by anti-hunters."

I know there are disagreements, but its hard to combat the logic here...

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