Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

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Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby luie b » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:25 pm

I was just rigging up my decoys for this year and noticed the decoy weights knock the crap out of the paint and was thinking of a way to avoid this. Other than a slotted decoy bag I was thinking about using that rubber stuff that that Bily Mayes guy endorsed and spray all the weights with it. Think it would work because it does say the stuff's waterproof.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby renegadeduck » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:31 pm

they make a rubber dip as well. its for dipping tool handles in but i have heard of people dipping anchors. i have never done it but seems like a good idea
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:33 pm

You might want to research if it would stick to lead weights. Have you tried the old trick of clear coating your deeks? I've pretty much given up on protecting paint on my decoys. I figure if I have enough of them set out, I don't think the ducks will notice. I think it's more of a comforting factor for me knowing my decoys look pretty. This is an interesting topic though. I'd like to see where it goes. Maybe a new line of decoy weights.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:12 pm

I plasti-dipped the weights for my carved blocks with the tool handle stuff, and it's held up for roughly a decade with no sign of letting go.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Frank Lopez » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:39 am

It's called Plasti-Grip and is available at Home Depot, among other places. I make a modified mushroom anchor (muffin tin) with a wire loop that I can snub around the nose of the keel. Still, the anchors will rub and chip adjacent blocks. A can of Plasti-Grip will coat approximately 36 of these weights and seems to help a bit.

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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby noweil » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:29 pm

I dipped a bunch of weights 15 years ago and they are still holding up well. One can of plastic dip will do a lot of weights.

renegadeduck wrote:they make a rubber dip as well. its for dipping tool handles in but i have heard of people dipping anchors. i have never done it but seems like a good idea
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Kasilofchrisn » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:04 pm

The plasti-dip also comes in a spray can just like regular spray paint.
The spray version may work better for certain kinds of weights that are harder to dip like strap weights.
I could see this working. I would do a test weight first to check for adhesion as well as to make sure it doesn't rub and leave black marks on your decoys. Especially if you use the Billy Maze product(flex seal?).
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Frank Lopez » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:47 am

Kasilofchrisn wrote:The spray version may work better for certain kinds of weights that are harder to dip like strap weights.


I don't use strap weights, so I can't say for sure, but I would think that dipping or spraying these weights wouldn't make much sense. Wouldn't the constant bending and shaping of the weight crack the coating and cause it to peel?

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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Kasilofchrisn » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:27 pm

Frank Lopez wrote:
Kasilofchrisn wrote:The spray version may work better for certain kinds of weights that are harder to dip like strap weights.


I don't use strap weights, so I can't say for sure, but I would think that dipping or spraying these weights wouldn't make much sense. Wouldn't the constant bending and shaping of the weight crack the coating and cause it to peel?

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That's why i suggested trying a test weight.
I do know it is a rubberized coating and rubber has a lot of flexibility and give to it.
OK so now I will head to the garage and do a test spray on a strap weight.
Once dry I will test it by bending and flexing itg many times and report back.
Might even take some pictures.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Kasilofchrisn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:17 am

Here's what I am using for my test.
Tanglefree brand 4oz strap weights.
Plastidip in a spray can.
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And here I am painting them.
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The unpainted weight will be the control.
It will be bent just as many times and photographed just like the other two.
Once they are dry tomorrow I will start testing them.
Probably bend them 100 times with pics every 25 or so.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Frank Lopez » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:41 am

Nice job, Kasilofchrisn! Appreciate you're taking the time! :beer:

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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Kasilofchrisn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:17 pm

Well I first had to touch up the spray where the cords I used. To hang them stuck.
Tested the first by rubbing the weight on an old decoy.
It did rub the paint off just a bit on the edges of the feather details.
Them the rubber coating started to rub off.
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It definetly needs the lead to be roughed up a bit for better adhesion. Maybe a wire brush or some mild acid to etch it.
Use caution and proper PPE to minimize lead exposure from the dust.
I bent it 50 times back and forth.
The lead finally started to break. I forgot how soft pure lead really is. And they are not normally ment to be bent this many times in a row.
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Overall it did work and would be better than plain lead.
It would work better if you roughed up the lead a bit first.
A second coating would also help.
This was done with plastic dip brand from a spray can.
the cheap as seen on tv brand may or may not work as well.
I know plasti dip brand is made for tool handles etc.
The Billy Maze brand is a leak stop product.
I do think it would work better on other weight styles.
Again if you rough the lead up a bit first so it adheres better.
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Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby Mholland » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:56 pm

I bought the pre-coated strap weights several years ago when I bought all my new G&H decoys. They lasted about 4-5 years and started peeling from all the constant bending. I would think the DIY stuff will do the same. Really helped protect the paint though.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby luie b » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:53 am

I came up with a better idea. With the regular 4 oz. decoy weights (the non strap kind) you can take an old garden hose and cut it into sections as long as the weight so that it covers the whole weight and then drill a hole in it to tie the weight in. With these they're way more cushiony than the ones I sprayed with rubber so I think this is a way better alternative.
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby UmatillaJeff » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:04 pm

Why not just get keel grabber weights and put the whole issue to rest? We went that route a few years back and it has been the best thing we have done for saving decoys from getting beat up by weights.

We bought a mold from do- it molds and just melted our old decoy weights down. We were out the cost of a mold. This is the best approach I have seen for a guy that uses regular commercial style plastic decoys and hunts in diffrent depths from say inches to 20 feet.Jeff
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Re: Spray on Rubber for Decoy Weights?

Postby bubba57 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:44 am

Glade I dropped in, got some really good Ideas from you guys. There ya go! learned sumthin new today.
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