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coot? duck Identification help question

Postby waldo31 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:20 pm

hey, new forum member here. Do any of you know what this bird/waterfowl might be..... its about the size of a goose, it has a long neck, makes weird gargling noises, and there were about 500 of them landing on water and were also landing on tree limbs in some old dead trees in flodded timber. Are these coots? I never got close enough to tell if they had a white beak. The biggest question is can i shoot these things? Location: Im in central alabama, the ducks/birds in question were in a swamp right off the alabama river close to montgomery area, i have also seen these same ducks/ birds on lake oconee in Georgia. Thanks in advance.-
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby cwsmith » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:42 pm

hmm, by this description it is hard to tell exactly what they are. was their wingbeat and flight pattern duck like? coots don't tend to like flying long distances or up high for long so if they were just moving around and flying near the water then they could be coots.

coots do not tend to have long necks and are certainly not the size of a coot. they are around the size of a medium duck like a wigeon or a gadwall.
13-14 Season

40 mallards
14 GWT
13 pin
10 spoony
10 buff
9 wigeon
8 rgnk
6 woodie
6 gad
5 barrow's ge
3 merg
3 ruddy
2 l scaup
1 g scaup
1 comm ge
1 can
TOTAL DUCKS = 132

77 canada
4 snow
2 speck
TOTAL GEESE = 83

TOTAL WATERFOWL = 215
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:44 pm

Could be mergs. Not sure without a pic. Coots aren't very big and are solid black with a white beak.
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jaysweet3 wrote:Looks a little small.

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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby ILgoosehunter12 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:51 pm

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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby waldo31 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:57 pm

cw, their flight pattern was inbetween a duck(mallard) and a goose. Rebelp, when you say mergs, do you mean merganziers? If so, they were def not merganziers, ive shoot plenty merganziers and hooded merganziers- the bird in question is much bigger- its inbetween a mallard and goose.
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby waldo31 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 pm

cormrants!! Pretty sure thats the bird. I dont think you can shoot those,wright??
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:00 pm

waldo31 wrote:cw, their flight pattern was inbetween a duck(mallard) and a goose. Rebelp, when you say mergs, do you mean merganziers? If so, they were def not merganziers, ive shoot plenty merganziers and hooded merganziers- the bird in question is much bigger- its inbetween a mallard and goose.

I was talking about mergansers. Common mergansers are bigger than a mallard. They may be cormorants as the guy said above. Do they fly in pretty strong v formations? If so, probably cormorants. If it is cormorants you can't kill them, they're protected.
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby waldo31 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:02 pm

yeah they did fly in A V/formation. Thanks for the help.
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby chaltig » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 pm

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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby Fatback » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:59 pm

And cormorants land in tree's ! .... We have almost a year long season(varmint Season) with no limits... :hammer:
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby reel_time » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:02 pm

Cormorant. Do they fly by flapping their wings and then gliding after a few flaps? Cormorants do...way different than geese just flying by. Gliding is a dead cormorant giveaway. Good to id those birds. Shooting one could be $$:-o

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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby cwsmith » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:17 am

those would be cormorants with a flight pattern between ducks and geese. they definitely catch many a waterfowlers eye! not a game bird though
13-14 Season

40 mallards
14 GWT
13 pin
10 spoony
10 buff
9 wigeon
8 rgnk
6 woodie
6 gad
5 barrow's ge
3 merg
3 ruddy
2 l scaup
1 g scaup
1 comm ge
1 can
TOTAL DUCKS = 132

77 canada
4 snow
2 speck
TOTAL GEESE = 83

TOTAL WATERFOWL = 215
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby hitnrun » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:40 am

Sounds like a black ibis. Did it have a long beak? They flap and glide a lot. Look like triangles when they glide. They also make a weird gargle noise.
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby cwsmith » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:10 am

hitnrun wrote:Sounds like a black ibis.


that very well could be too, i don't know the local birds and especially am not familiar with ibis species. either way, these do not sound like huntable birds :lame:
13-14 Season

40 mallards
14 GWT
13 pin
10 spoony
10 buff
9 wigeon
8 rgnk
6 woodie
6 gad
5 barrow's ge
3 merg
3 ruddy
2 l scaup
1 g scaup
1 comm ge
1 can
TOTAL DUCKS = 132

77 canada
4 snow
2 speck
TOTAL GEESE = 83

TOTAL WATERFOWL = 215
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby wigeon3 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:57 pm

Commarants . Federally protected bird and can only be harvested on private farms
With the land owners permission and the land owner has to have a permit to kill em.
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby bubbasblazer » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:50 pm

If the front half looked like the back half while flying, probably a comerant
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Re: coot? duck Identification help question

Postby jandh77 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:20 pm

As has been stated already, they're probably cormorants. I could see why ibises were suggested, but they aren't really bigger than a duck and they don't generally swim. Cormorants swim, land in trees, are in between a duck and a goose, both in size and in wing beat, and have been confused by some (including myself) for a duck or a goose at a distance. This is more than likely what you've been seeing. Check out the pics below. Are these what you've seen? If so, no you cannot shoot them. And as in any hunting situation, if you cannot identify your target and/or you're not sure if it's in season, don't shoot!
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