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Yet another bird ID

Postby aTrueOkie » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:59 am

Wutsup yall. New to the forum but not new to duck hunting. Anyway, my longtime buddy and I were in southern Oklahoma hunting last season and despite us seeing very few ducks, I blasted this guy! We though he might be a greenhead/gadwall. But his tail feathers are real long(pintailish). Could this be a greenhead/gadwall/pintail!? I know Unicorns are real, and down here in Oklahoma, we got bigfoot everywhere. But this critter might be a whole other level of rarity. What do yall think? thanks guys
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby PungoShoresOutdoors » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:18 am

Cool looking bird. Speculum looks like GWT :huh:
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby aTrueOkie » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:27 am

Re: Yet another bird ID
by PungoShoresOutdoors » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:18 am
Cool looking bird. Speculum looks like GWT

Thanks bub, I think it's a good looking bird too. I thought it looked a little like a green winger also. Looks like a bunch of different ducks thrown together, its got me stumped.
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby PungoShoresOutdoors » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:30 pm

How big was it compared to a normal mallard?
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby aTrueOkie » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:11 pm

PungoShoresOutdoors wrote:How big was it compared to a normal mallard?

A little bit smaller
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:06 pm

Looks like pintail to me..
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:55 am

brewers all day, look at the bill....mallard x gadwall
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:39 am

merganser murderer wrote:brewers all day, look at the bill....mallard x gadwall

:huh: :huh: Your days are pretty short... :lol3:
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby aTrueOkie » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:23 am

merganser murderer wrote:brewers all day, look at the bill....mallard x gadwall

Ya the bill is Gadwall for sure, and mallard. What threw me was the tail feathers.
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby Slack Tide » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:48 am

Funky Widgeon (ck the tail)
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:11 pm

I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:16 pm

goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby Slack Tide » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:05 am

It's a funky widgeon.....
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:23 am

Slack Tide wrote:It's a funky widgeon.....


could be but the mallard x wigeon we killed this year had a light blue bill, pretty sure its got gaddy in the gene pool, another dead give away to the gadwal is where the white wing patch is, the white is in the speculum, not on the shoulder above the speculum. everything points to gaddy x mallard cross
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:26 am

aTrueOkie wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:brewers all day, look at the bill....mallard x gadwall

Ya the bill is Gadwall for sure, and mallard. What threw me was the tail feathers.


the wigeon x mallard that we got this year had a tail that was much longer than this one has. awesome bird, congrats on taking it i would love to have one for my wall...i will try and post a pic on here for you to look at
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:33 am

mallard x wigeon
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:29 am

merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool

Are you you blind or stupid..where do you see widgeon ???..really dude?
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:33 am

Widgeon don't have a spring, nor have a green speculum. Just because the bill is blue doesn't mean squat..and the drake pintail has blue in it's bill.
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby Slack Tide » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:48 am

Uhhh, well, the storm Widgeon I have on my wall has the same green splash on the cheek, the same green specs, a 2" pin that extends past the regular tail.....
Other than that I don't see anything
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:39 pm

goosehunter64 wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool

Are you you blind or stupid..where do you see widgeon ???..really dude?


maybe the hint of white wing patches is a dead giveaway STUPID, and maybe the cream colored cap on the top of the birds head where a wigeon would have a white cap is another dead giveaway STUPID...and yea wigeons can have a small sprig STUPID...stick to your goose identification there isn't as many species for you to identify....
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:45 pm

goosehunter64 wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool

Are you you blind or stupid..where do you see widgeon ???..really dude?


the pic that TrueOkie posted is gadwall x mallard...classic look for one, maybe you should really evaluate you identification skills, or just dont post anymore that way the STUPID will stop.
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:04 pm

here is some wigeon with small sprigs for anyone that thinks a wigeon cant have a small

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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby goosehunter64 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:07 pm

merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool

Are you you blind or stupid..where do you see widgeon ???..really dude?


the pic that TrueOkie posted is gadwall x mallard...classic look for one, maybe you should really evaluate you identification skills, or just dont post anymore that way the STUPID will stop.

Oh..did I offend the stupid side of you..sorry. Been ID'ing birds countless years..and MHO it's a pintal/mallards cross. Where are your creds to some professional ID guy?....lets see them
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby merganser murderer » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:27 pm

goosehunter64 wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:
merganser murderer wrote:
goosehunter64 wrote:I'm some glad some of you aren't the DNR... :huh: :huh:


this coming from a guy that thinks there is some pintail in the gene pool

Are you you blind or stupid..where do you see widgeon ???..really dude?


the pic that TrueOkie posted is gadwall x mallard...classic look for one, maybe you should really evaluate you identification skills, or just dont post anymore that way the STUPID will stop.

Oh..did I offend the stupid side of you..sorry. Been ID'ing birds countless years..and MHO it's a pintal/mallards cross. Where are your creds to some professional ID guy?....lets see them


nope not offended, i think ill send THE WATERFOWLER a message and let him ID these birds, he has the creds. your looking for, i just know my ducks.
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Re: Yet another bird ID

Postby Slack Tide » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:17 pm

Here is the response from the retired DEC director of fresh water management as chief biologist whom I sent this thread to......


There's obviously some Mallard - but I also see some Gadwall (tertials), Pintail (Speculum + central tail feathers), Wigeon (Speculum + central tail feathers). These birds arr all in the same genus and ducks have always disobeyed the rules of speciation (i.e., their hybrids are frequently fertile). It could certainly be a second generation cross.

I cannot clearly see the bill - so I'm not sure where all the Gadwall certainty comes from...
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