ok this much I pretty much allready knew, so your routine has to go like that, nobody varies? it's 90 seconds, always? where and when do they have these I would like to go watch and see how good people are around here, I guess my cousins huntin buddy got second place in washington one year, cloke ? his dad trians dogs and they goose hunt in my grandparants feild sometimes cus its in there back yard, I should give him a call I guess. see if he's still doin it.