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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby muddyfoot » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:30 pm

RxDuck wrote:Could someone please explain call set up? Like what is the difference between a heavy tuned vs light tuned call? Also, where do the manufacturers generally tune their calls as far as set up? For instance, I am overpowering my MVP and having a hard time backing off enough to maintain a long hail. Would I benefit from a "heavier" tuned call? Thanks.


Sounds like it's not how heavy or light the call is set up, but more so how you are controlling your air flow into the call.
Try filling your gut with air and learn how to control the flow of what comes up and through your diaphragm turning that into hot air and don't push but pop the air.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby CutEmMS » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:09 am

TomKat wrote:
LA.Call'emClose wrote:a duck may not win a competition but adding the competitive element to any task you attempt will improve your performance

most competition callers are able to squeeze every ounce of potential performance out of a call...which can be a good skill to possess when in the field

now, learning to read birds and use your skills effectively in the field is another thing...no matter how much you learn form imitating great call clips on youtube or practicing in your garage, this type of practice will not make you more proficient at figuring out what the birds want to hear and what will help pull them into range

this is something only time in the field will earn you.

personally, i see competition calling as a great way to hone your skills...so a sticky for pointers/advice should be a good addition to the forum


I cant disagree with your post. But what I have learned from watching the Duck Commander is that if you know WHEN to call, you really dont need the full range that a call is capable of. A few quacks or a drake whistle at the proper time will let you kill ducks.


Question: if the duck commander told you that the best way to attract ducks was to jump in the lake with your waders on and say "quack, quack, quack!"....would you do it? Phil Robertson isn't the duck God.....Jesus Christ...I'm so sick of hearing people say," well Phil Robertson says this" or "on Duck Commander they did this." :no:
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby muddyfoot » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:12 pm

I agree, I just laugh when I hear people say.., or should I say "quote" what DC has said about comp calling.
I think he's a good man and nothing against him personally, but his feelings must have really got hurt when them Arkansas boys told him,his call would never win a worlds duck calling contest back in the day!

But what Phil and everyone else needs to know is Comp calling, "Main Street" style is not about the ducks and never will be!
It's about Performance of the call, it's so much that goes into it that you need a whole nother level of teaching and style in the since of Main Street.

So I, just like others have come to realize that many are called to the Waterfowl world but only a few are chosen to the Comp world.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby CutEmMS » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:12 am

muddyfoot wrote:I agree, I just laugh when I hear people say.., or should I say "quote" what DC has said about comp calling.
I think he's a good man and nothing against him personally, but his feelings must have really got hurt when them Arkansas boys told him,his call would never win a worlds duck calling contest back in the day!

But what Phil and everyone else needs to know is Comp calling, "Main Street" style is not about the ducks and never will be!
It's about Performance of the call, it's so much that goes into it that you need a whole nother level of teaching and style in the since of Main Street.

So I, just like others have come to realize that many are called to the Waterfowl world but only a few are chosen to the Comp world.

Agreed :beer:
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby mattk22250 » Thu May 29, 2014 7:57 pm

Does anybody here use a Foiles mean street for their comp call?
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby aunt betty » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:06 am

muddyfoot wrote:
RxDuck wrote:Could someone please explain call set up? Like what is the difference between a heavy tuned vs light tuned call? Also, where do the manufacturers generally tune their calls as far as set up? For instance, I am overpowering my MVP and having a hard time backing off enough to maintain a long hail. Would I benefit from a "heavier" tuned call? Thanks.


Sounds like it's not how heavy or light the call is set up, but more so how you are controlling your air flow into the call.
Try filling your gut with air and learn how to control the flow of what comes up and through your diaphragm turning that into hot air and don't push but pop the air.

Just a guess but it sounds like two reed to one reed transition problem.
Two reed users tend to REALLY push a call hard and every single reed they pick up has issues.
Saying this because the top of the line MVP is hard to imagine being tuned so poorly at butch's shop that its impossible to use. Every MVP anyone has ever handed me was sweetness.


It took me years to transition and I gave up at least twice.
Its TOUGH breaking the bad habits that a two reed call allows you to get away with.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby marsh water » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:04 am

Trevors routine is great. I used to have 32 to 34 notes on the highball. I did count. One thing, John Fox, a TV personality from the 70s and 80s won a bunch of competitions. Most judges look for something out of the norm to stand out from the crowd. Instead of the tika tika tika feel chatter, he did like a lot of us did and listened to ducks. I used to go to the duck lakes and small zoo around my home and just sit for hours listening to ducks. I know everyone has heard it, but sitting ducks say more of a paduka, paduka. The tika comes from ducks flying over. John started using that and won. The fast rolling tika feed call with a few quacks thrown in sounds so good that when you get it down, its just got to be thrown in. One of Chic Majors sons in law Eddie Holt couldnt be beat at call contests. He was a large heavy man, according to Don Cahil, but couldnt call ducks for beans. And Phil Robertson has some of the most prime duck marsh in La. He also has duck spotters that watch for ducks way up from their blinds and let them know when flights are on their way so they can get ready. Hunting for the camera is way different than hunting cold. If that is how you make your living you use every trick you can think of. I've said it before, I hunted with cajun's for several yrs that used to go to our contests and laugh at the callers. They all hunted with olt d2's cut down. I kept my call in my pocket the first yr. They threatened my life if I tried to use my call routine in the duck blind. Took me awhile, but they taught me to call ducks instead of judges. But a guy that can win contests and call ducks too is a great guy to get to know. The contests are like retriever trials, they may not be great meat dogs, but the foundation they have poured set the mark for great duck dogs. Some trial dogs are too high powered to sit. The quest for good comp calls has made the meat calls way better. Chicks calls broke pretty bad under pressure. You had to know the breaking point. Most older calls did. Butch Richenbach, Rnt, Echo, Betts and the rest have calls that are very hard if not impossible to break. And I've tried. Good for us.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby Wisconsin Flyway » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:27 pm

I am reading your posts about calling competitions and have a different problem. My son is interested in getting into competitions. We live in central Wisconsin and cannot seem to find a competition or even a place to look/person to ask to find one. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby stumpjumper » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:35 am

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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:51 am

Digging up an oldie here.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:55 am

I was going to suggest calliingducks but tried a search of their contest locations and got the same "No Calling Contests match the criteria you supplied." response whether for Wisconsin, which I don't know pecans about, or for my own state, which has contests.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby Rick Hall » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:58 am

ByersFarm wrote:Digging up an oldie here.


He gets points for having used the search function before asking, as well as being a good dad.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby jrode237 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:01 am

Wisconsin Flyway wrote:I am reading your posts about calling competitions and have a different problem. My son is interested in getting into competitions. We live in central Wisconsin and cannot seem to find a competition or even a place to look/person to ask to find one. Any help would be appreciated.

Central WI is a hard place to come by any calling contests. There is usually the state contest first weekend of September at the Richfield Cabelas. That is Mainstreet duck and open goose. Next best bet will be Game Fair in Minnesota (usually same weekend as state contests) which generally has much stiffer competition. Not a shot at the Wisconsin one but ONLY residents of the state are allowed to compete. At Game Fair, guys come from around the country. Other then that for ones somewhat close there is the Presley's one in Illinois and a large one in Burlington, Iowa around February.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby ByersFarm » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:31 pm

Rick Hall wrote:
ByersFarm wrote:Digging up an oldie here.


He gets points for having used the search function before asking, as well as being a good dad.

You're absolutely right Rick, and I'm glad you pointed that out. I just enjoyed the trip down memory lane.
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Re: Competition Duck Calling

Postby Wisconsin Flyway » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:17 am

Thanks for the help and recommendations for finding contests.
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