Well the Down and Dirty Vicious arrived today. I LIKE this thing. True to the claims on their web site. Loud,good loose bottom that is very easy on the lungs. Fast and squealy. A hail call from hell! Even I can rock it as a 51 yr old asthmatic,lol. Pretty darn good call. I wish I had some decent light for pics. I'll be watching to pick up a Chaos in the future.