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Browning Maxus

Postby Maxushunter » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:44 am

To all you guy's out there with a Maxus have you had the chance to pattern it at the range bought mine last year and took it out in the blind duck hunting i found it shooting behind or in from depending on with way the birds came in left to right or right to left.
So i took it down to the range and pattered it what i found was the pattern was way left number # 4 shot Kent steel so i took the stock off and installed a number 3 R shim in it shot it again at the target found it improved the pattern but still to the left of center for the most concentration of shot so then i installed the #2 r on top of the #3 shim this has made the pattern best it's been about 60% to the left of center and 40% to the right of center pattern never had to do this on any other shot gun any one else looked at this in there gun?


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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Derrick C. » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:01 pm

mine looked good with Winchester Supreme #3's with a Carlson Mid and Extended, factory (all 3), and Kicks chokes (full). did not like the pattern master or black cloud ammo.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Maxushunter » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:43 pm

I have tried the standard chokes the gun came with and i have the carlson choke in it now didn't see any change in the pattern though with changing the shim's.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:40 pm

Briley's in my Maxus were much better than Carlsons........I wouldnt waste my money on Carlsons. Tried them in the Maxus and Benelli and saw very little if any improvement.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Maxushunter » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:24 pm

OK with this gun these are the chokes i have tried but i still wouldn't think this would have an effect on the pattern?

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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Derrick C. » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:31 am

Might want to call Browning and talk to them. Have you let anyone else try to pattern the gun?
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby clampdaddy » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:05 pm

Try one of the other tubes that came with your gun. Mine shot high with the mod. tube but shot fine with all the others.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby atwoodflash » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:25 pm

The Drake wrote:Briley's in my Maxus were much better than Carlsons........I wouldnt waste my money on Carlsons. Tried them in the Maxus and Benelli and saw very little if any improvement.



:lol: :lol: :lol: Really! to quote you from another post regarding CZ Shotguns "Tom Knap Shoots them"...Carlson's Chokes that is!
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:00 am

atwoodflash wrote:
The Drake wrote:Briley's in my Maxus were much better than Carlsons........I wouldnt waste my money on Carlsons. Tried them in the Maxus and Benelli and saw very little if any improvement.



:lol: :lol: :lol: Really! to quote you from another post regarding CZ Shotguns "Tom Knap Shoots them"...Carlson's Chokes that is!


I have no idea what chokes Tom shoots.........what I stated VERY clearly was he shoots CZ Shotguns. But if you would like to get into how the Carlsons chokes dont pattern 1550fps loads we can do that :eek:
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Ned S » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:08 am

Carlson's chokes pattern 1500 fps to 1800 fps loads just fine.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:03 pm

Ned S wrote:Carlson's chokes pattern 1500 fps to 1800 fps loads just fine.


Not in the Benelli's and Brownings I have shot them in.....I have seen them improve one load of 1400fps #2's vs. many many other combinations....Not too mention you dont even own a Benelli and probably havent shot a Maxus either :no:

As you can see here the only load they really helped was the 1400fps #2's........Some like the 1550fps #3's had higher %'s with factory chokes.......With 1550fps #2's the Factory full was better than the Carlsons Full........1400fps #3s were more consistent with the Factory mod as well over the Carlsons.

#3 1550fps Carlsons Ext Mod 115-120 for 65- 67%
#3 1550fps Carlsons Ext Full 111-125 hits 62-70%
#3 1550fps Factory Modified 128 hits both shots 72%

#2 1550fps Carlsons Ext Mod 108-123 for 77-87%
#2 1550fps Carlson Ext Full 98-112 hits 70-79%
#2 1550fps Factory Modified 110-113 for 78-80%
#2 1550fps Factory Full 108-120 hits 77-85%

#2 1400fps Carlson Ext Mod 136-138 for 87-88%
#2 1400fps Factory Modified 99-110 for 63-70%

#3 1400fps Carlsons Ext Mod 137-152 for 70-77%
#3 1400fps Factory Modified 143-150 for 73-76%
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:12 pm

atwoodflash wrote:
The Drake wrote:Briley's in my Maxus were much better than Carlsons........I wouldnt waste my money on Carlsons. Tried them in the Maxus and Benelli and saw very little if any improvement.



:lol: :lol: :lol: Really! to quote you from another post regarding CZ Shotguns "Tom Knap Shoots them"...Carlson's Chokes that is!


Here ya go read the first 2 posts and tell me where I mentioned Carlsons chokes...........

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=152472&p=1233149&hilit=knapp#p1233149
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Yuchi1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:49 pm

http://www.tomknapp.net/sponsors/

As Carlson's is a sponsor that must be one of their tubes in his CZ shotgun.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:58 pm

Yuchi1 wrote:http://www.tomknapp.net/sponsors/

As Carlson's is a sponsor that must be one of their tubes in his CZ shotgun.


Whatever, if Carlsons wants some free advertising here and wants to drop Knapps name thats great. But to put words in my mouth about Knapp shooting them and me stating just that is still WRONG.

Hope they work better with lead that they do with steel above 1500fps..........My patterning tells me Briley was superior in every gun i have compared them in.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby atwoodflash » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:30 pm

I will make it simple as I can for you to understand. I was saying you used the pharse Tom Knapp Shoots it.... in regrards to the CZ shotgun. My guess is you were saying if Tom Knapps shoots the CZ then it must be of decent quality. In the same retrospect Tom Knapp uses Carlson's Choke Tubes which I assume he probably shoots and hunts more than you therefore he might just know more about patterning than you do. Once again this is just an opinion so don't get your panties up in a wad again big guy.

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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby The Drake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:43 pm

Re read your post a few up from this.........that clearly is not what you stated. Now, if thats what you meant fine, but it aint what you posted.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby Yuchi1 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:51 pm

While we're all fussin' about choke tubes my .02 is with Briley, Terror, Trulock, Carlsons, PM, etc., the results varied widely from gun to gun, choke to choke & load to load so Brian's experience (while very real for him) isn't necessarily unique.

BTW, the OP dealt with his Maxus shooting off POA and if you look up in the shotgun forum you'll see where he discovered the choke tube well is cut crooked thus causing the problem. He has it at Browning's facility now and said he'd let us know how things turn out.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby atwoodflash » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:05 pm

Here is some data for you Drake...Note the percetages are based on a 10 shot average using an electronic patterning board.

HyperSonic Remington #2 1.25 oz 1700 FPS 148 pellets per shell
Shots are based on a 10 shot avergae at 40 yards.
Shots were taken with a Remington 870 with a 24" barrel and a bore diameter of .727

Carlson's Extended IC----30" circle.......75% (111 hits) 15" circle....43 hits 10" circle.......20 hits
Carlson's Extended LM---30" circle.......76.8% (113.6 hits) 15" circle...45 hits 10".......21.4 hits
Carlson's Extended Mod--30" circle.......86% (127.2 hits) 15" circle...52 10" circle........25.7
Carlson's Extended IM----30" circle.......91% (134.6 hits) 15" circle...55 10" circle.......26.8

All guns pattern differntly with different chokes and loads, and as I would never degrade another company's product as you did Carlson's, I would be happy to see what your Briley chokes do with this 1700 FPS since you do not feel Carlson's Chokes can produce decent patterns with 1550 FPS loads. Something else you might consider looking at is the bore of your gun, note that I have that info listed, as bores vary plus or minus .008-.012 which can make a huge difference in how the choke will pattern. Done with the thread as it should be in the Chokes forum. Feel free to PM me Drake if you wish to continue our conversation. Have a great week all!
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby atwoodflash » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:32 pm

Yes the problem with misaligned chokes to bore is not uncommon even for Browning. If you do not know what to look for it is easy to assume the choke or load is the cause or poor patterns or incorrect POI (Point of Impact). I apologize for taking the thread in a different direction. In all the experiences with mislaligned bores the facotry has always fixed the probelm I have seen. I think/hope Brian has the same success as Browning is a top notch company. Do not get frustrated Brian as it is understandable that you are. I have seen this in several other manufacturers guns. As all people/companies make mistakes all you can ask for is for them to take care of your problem and make it right with you.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby duckinismyluckin » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:02 pm

Maxus Hunter hi, i have a maxus the only thing i have really patterned my maxus with is turkey loads i used a undertaker hevi shot super full turkey. and with hevi-13 5's and lead 5's it will lay waste to a tom out too 55 yards. These are 3.5 magnums. As far as waterfowl. I have had amazing success with my extended ported duck commander full choke. For geese i use black cloud triple b's they put nice patterns on birds out to 55 yards. I use 2's from 0 to 35 yards for geese. Ducks THe 3 inch hypersonic 4's for 0 to 40 yards is awesome. And i use hypersonic 2's out too about 55 yards for ducks. I also have shot 4 geese from 45 to 8o yards with hevi shot dead coyote. I have never patterned those steel/choke combo's. But i can say this the shots and distances they have all seem to have killed birds with reasonable pattern.> only killed one or two birds with golden bb. which were at long range. I have killed 70 birds in about 2/1/2 seasonsover 3 years. I also powder clays weather trap or skeet with my facory full all the time. Far as turkey load pattern. I put a 1 inch circle target with orange paint on cardboard 24 bye 24 at 45 50 and 55 yards with the turkey choke and 2 turkey loads. and put 8 to 16 pellets in that 1 inch circle. If thats a toms head he is toast. And rest of cardboard looked like a chicago typewriter hit it. It was riddled with holes. SO what i would try shoot some trap with factory full and see how many powdered clays u get. and i mean powder. no bits. Then try the duck commander choke.

Good luck maxus hunter.
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Re: Browning Maxus

Postby dwbiggs » Mon May 07, 2012 7:36 am

Have Maxus and was shooting left...I put in the shim that gave it cast off and drop and it shoots right on now. Did not like the stock chokes so I bought a Trulock Precision Hunter in Mod and patterned #2 Kent Fasteel and it patterns nicely. My success in field got better as a result.
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