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Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby Indaswamp » Fri May 03, 2013 7:09 pm

From someone that workked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years......
Can a good Muslim be a good American?


This question was forwarded someone who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his forwarded reply:

Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon God of Arabia.

Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran)

Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically – no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically – no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically – no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually – no. Because when we declare “one nation under God,” the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should be very mindful of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both “good” Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish….it’s still the truth.

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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby buckmeister » Fri May 03, 2013 7:44 pm

No, and hell no.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby Indaswamp » Fri May 03, 2013 7:54 pm

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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Sat May 04, 2013 1:20 am

Unfortunately no..... That statement would be an oxymoron!












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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby Indaswamp » Sat May 04, 2013 1:31 am

ctdeathfrombelow wrote:Unfortunately no..... That statement would be an oxymoron!












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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby Hurras » Wed May 08, 2013 2:51 pm

Are you serious :wink:

Theologically - no.. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.
In the Qur’an, we read that the earth in its entirety belongs to God, and humans can settle anywhere as long as they do not encroach on the rights of others to that piece of land where they will settle. As such, wherever Muslims live, they have the responsibility to defend the community and take care of the environment and other related matters for the good of all. “Patriotism”, in the sense of “love for a place where one lives and has a home and family” is part of one’s faith in Islam. Hence, “loyalty” and “patriotism” to one’s country of residence is an obligation that stems from one’s faith commitment. “Allegiance” to God means allegiance to the betterment of this earth and its inhabitants without the extremes of negative nationalism and patriotisms.
Anyone who accuses Muslims of worshiping the moon (or anything in the creation) has not read the Quran, nor do they have the slightest concept of what Muslims believe about Almighty God - Allah.
Allah "A MOON God"? What?

Religiously - no... Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

And of the Christian Fundamentalist…Religiously- NO Because “there is no other name under heaven, (Jesus) by which a man can be saved. There is one true Christian Church and whoever believes on the name of the Lord..Jesus Christ, shall be saved, while others are condemned. Fundamentalist Christians do NOT accept any other religious beliefs as valid to theirs, so no difference here.
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Scripturally - no... Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no... Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

In Islam there is no concept of Promised Land to which one day all Muslims must return before the Final Days. There is no allegiance to any part of the earth, not even to Mecca. Allegiance is only to God, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. No Muslim has “allegiance” to the Five Pillars. The Five Pillars are nothing more than the means to show one’s obedience to God:
1) Profess to believe that there is no God except for God, and that Muhammed was his messenger.

2) Pray to God at least five times a day, if it’s practical and you can manage it.

3) Give alms (“zakat”) to the poor. This is usually money, but can be food if you can’t give money.

4) Fast from dawn to dusk for one month a year, known as Ramadan. This is only for adults, and not for people who are sick or elderly.

5) If practical, and you can afford it, make at least one pilgrimmage in your life to visit Mecca.

Mecca is important simply because it has one of the holiest places of worship - mosques - built by Prophet Abraham and his son Ismael. No Muslim ever dreams of returning to Mecca for permanent residence. There is always a desire to visit and to worship God in the sanctuary.


Socially - no... Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Again, there is no “allegiance” to Islam. There is faith in God and “Islam” is an act of submission to God’s will that requires Muslims to live in peace with all communities on earth, including the Jews and the Christians. However, if any group of humanity engages in hostility against Muslims then they are required to defend themselves. There is no blind friendship or loyalty in Islam. If friendship to any human being, regardless whether that person is a Muslim, Jew, or Christian leads to corruption in society, then Muslims are to shun such company and loyalty.


Politically - no... Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan
In Islam there is neither “church” nor “priesthood.” No Muslim has an obligation to follow a scholar (Mullah) who teaches hatred and harm to others. To the contrary, it is the duty of Muslims to follow the leaders who represent the moral and spiritual values of Islam. No one can stand indifferent to injustice in the world and regard himself or herself as a member of the human community, let alone of the Muslim community. At the same time, Muslims must always be alert and prepared to face the hostility and irrational attitude of other peoples. It is Satanic to demonize other human beings - whether it is done religiously or politically; whether it comes in the form of religious bigotry, or social and political discrimination.


Domestically - no... Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34)
And of the Christian Fundamentalist…Domestically no because a fundamentalist Christian is instructed to marry only one which is his property, but cannot talk in church and can only ask her husband bible questions at home. A christian believes if you “beat (spank)a child with a rod, it won’t kill him.” Fundamentalist Christian women are to keep silence in the church, obey their husbands as unto the Lord, and call him “Lord” as did Sarah (all in NT). They are to give him sex as a part of her duty and submit. The Koran and the Bible sprang from the same culture, which few Fundamentalist Chrsitians realize or think about. In many respects the Taliban are to the Koran what the Fundamentalist Christians are to the Bible. PS…Lots of Fundamentalist Christian men abuse their wives with the word.

There is no such blanket obligation in the Qur’an to marry four wives. The quoted verse occurs in the context of orphan girls under the custody of a guardian who, in the interest of preserving the property of the orphan girls, is instructed to marry one, two, three or four, provided he can treat them justly. Islam did not invent polygamy. It existed before it in every religion and civilization, and Islam is the first religion to actually limit the number of wives to four. The Qur’an also underscores the reality in spousal relationship that treating with justice among multiple wives is impossible, and, therefore, a Muslim is advised to stick to one wife. The question of honor of the home is extremely central to the Qur’an and therefore, whether it is a woman who is unfaithful to her husband or a husband who is unfaithful to his wife (Q. 4:128), the matter deserves to be resolved quickly to preserve the sanctity of the family.


Intellectually - no... Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
The Constitution of the United States of America is based on universal values taught by all Abrahamic religions, including Christianity and Islam. All religions, at one time or another, have suffered distortions in the hands of their own followers. No religious tradition is immune from such corruptive influences of some in their midst. It is self-righteous to point fingers at others while forgetting the ugliest anti-Semitic images that have haunted Western societies in the last century in the heart of Europe and other regions of the world. The American constitution is as much Islamic, as it is Christian, and Muslim Americans are proud of our constitution and our democracy.


Philosophically - no... Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Nothing can be farther from the truth. In fact, the Qur’an declares in no uncertain terms: “There shall be no compulsion in religion” (Q. 2:256). Philosophically, the Qur’an laid down the foundation of “natural religion” (fitrat) with which God has created all human beings. It also made sure that complete freedom existed for all humans to choose their faith and spiritual destiny. The Prophet set examples for his community to handle the fact of diversity of faiths, requiring Muslims to recognize and respect God’s decision in the matter of allowing various faith communities to exist with each other and even with those who choose not to believe in God at all.


Spiritually - no... Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
One of the most beautiful names of God is “the Compassionate, the Merciful”, which Muslims repeat at least 17 times a day. If Love cannot translate into “compassion or mercy,” then it is an abstraction without meaning or application. In the Qur’an God has prescribed mercy for Himself (Q. 6:54), and that means that in dealing with humanity God will always show consideration as it improves itself to establish justice on earth. Muslims believe that they live under the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. That God is Trustworthy, Merciful, Compassionate and Loving God who cares for all human beings more than their own mother. Islam does not encourage turning God into a political statement since humans cannot possess God. They can simply relate themselves to God by emulating God’s compassion and forgiveness.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby pushrod » Wed May 08, 2013 3:25 pm

AidanK wrote:A Better and more Poignant question is can a Jew be a good American?

Why cannot have 2 loyalities (IsraHell / USA) and serve 2 masters..

Our Founding fathers also had some interesting things to say about Jews, and Ive found that Jew Watch Website is loaded with lots of good historical accurate information.


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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby go get the bird » Wed May 08, 2013 3:25 pm

AidanK wrote:A Better and more Poignant question is can a Jew be a good American?

Why cannot have 2 loyalities (IsraHell / USA) and serve 2 masters..

Our Founding fathers also had some interesting things to say about Jews, and Ive found that Jew Watch Website is loaded with lots of good historical accurate information.


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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby AnonymousDuck » Thu May 09, 2013 12:04 pm

Nope no such thing! Islam is Islam and I'm a proud Infadel.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby shootfirst45 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:31 am

Not to change countries but , the other day someone told me that England population is now 80 percent muslim. Can someone let me know if this is true? Seems like a very high number.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:02 am

shootfirst45 wrote:Not to change countries but , the other day someone told me that England population is now 80 percent muslim. Can someone let me know if this is true? Seems like a very high number.


It's not true...

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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby slowshooter » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:19 pm

Sowing seeds of hate so early in the day? Gee Inda, either you are bored or just crabby and constipated.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:13 pm

slowshooter wrote:Sowing seeds of hate so early in the day? Gee Inda, either you are bored or just crabby and constipated.

Slow, he posted this weeks ago and it is not a seed of hate.

It is a simple question, can one follow the laws laid out by our country and the laws of Islam?
The question is a difficult one to answer and was discussed in length over a few post a few weeks ago... The consensus reached was no, with about 97% agreeing :lol3:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby slowshooter » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:05 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:Sowing seeds of hate so early in the day? Gee Inda, either you are bored or just crabby and constipated.

Slow, he posted this weeks ago and it is not a seed of hate.

It is a simple question, can one follow the laws laid out by our country and the laws of Islam?
The question is a difficult one to answer and was discussed in length over a few post a few weeks ago... The consensus reached was no, with about 97% agreeing :lol3:


Only among the guys have 3% of their brains functioning.

But seriously, the idea that Muslims are bad or good based on their adherence to their religion just indicts Christians that believe we're a Christian state and push religious ideals through politics.

If Muslims can't be good Americans because in the middle east their religion is political. Then neither can Christians who try to change the country with legislation geared to force others to a Christian lifestyle, thinking and or behavior.

The American Christian Taliban is alive and well.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:20 pm

slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:Sowing seeds of hate so early in the day? Gee Inda, either you are bored or just crabby and constipated.

Slow, he posted this weeks ago and it is not a seed of hate.

It is a simple question, can one follow the laws laid out by our country and the laws of Islam?
The question is a difficult one to answer and was discussed in length over a few post a few weeks ago... The consensus reached was no, with about 97% agreeing :lol3:


Only among the guys have 3% of their brains functioning.

But seriously, the idea that Muslims are bad or good based on their adherence to their religion just indicts Christians that believe we're a Christian state and push religious ideals through politics.

If Muslims can't be good Americans because in the middle east their religion is political. Then neither can Christians who try to change the country with legislation geared to force others to a Christian lifestyle, thinking and or behavior.

The American Christian Taliban is alive and well.


It's only fun playing with the mentally challenged for so long, so I'm going to make this short. I've grown tired of these games and you're back on the ignore list.

First of all your pathetic attempts to change the topic are very telling of your capacity to argue with any validity.

Christians that force their ideas on others are not following the teaching of JC, very well.
Where that kind of action is essential to Islam.

I could find tons of versus that back this up from both the Holy Bible and the Quran, but as I'm sure you will claim neither of them are valid sources as I did not get them from the personal "memoirs" of Chris Mathews.

If you can figure out why I put quotes around that I'll give you an Internet high five :thumbsup:

Of course I will have to rely on others to acknowledge it, because your reply will not be showing up here.
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:04 am

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:Sowing seeds of hate so early in the day? Gee Inda, either you are bored or just crabby and constipated.

Slow, he posted this weeks ago and it is not a seed of hate.

It is a simple question, can one follow the laws laid out by our country and the laws of Islam?
The question is a difficult one to answer and was discussed in length over a few post a few weeks ago... The consensus reached was no, with about 97% agreeing :lol3:


Only among the guys have 3% of their brains functioning.

But seriously, the idea that Muslims are bad or good based on their adherence to their religion just indicts Christians that believe we're a Christian state and push religious ideals through politics.

If Muslims can't be good Americans because in the middle east their religion is political. Then neither can Christians who try to change the country with legislation geared to force others to a Christian lifestyle, thinking and or behavior.

The American Christian Taliban is alive and well.


It's only fun playing with the mentally challenged for so long, so I'm going to make this short. I've grown tired of these games and you're back on the ignore list.

First of all your pathetic attempts to change the topic are very telling of your capacity to argue with any validity.

Christians that force their ideas on others are not following the teaching of JC, very well.
Where that kind of action is essential to Islam.


If it was essential to Islam then we would be facing a war with 25% of the worlds population trying to kill us TODAY. Hey where are they? Oh, there are busy being "non-essential" to your version of Islam. Probably watching TV and thinking that tomorrow sounds like a good day to earn a living just like everyone else.


I could find tons of versus that back this up from both the Holy Bible and the Quran, but as I'm sure you will claim neither of them are valid sources as I did not get them from the personal "memoirs" of Chris Mathews.


You've watched more Chris whatever his name is than me. And comparing your religion to others just shows just how insecure you are. Religions come and go. Faith however never lessens. It just finds new outlets as soon as enough people agree upon in where they will place their beliefs.

If you can figure out why I put quotes around that I'll give you an Internet high five :thumbsup:

Of course I will have to rely on others to acknowledge it, because your reply will not be showing up here.


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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:33 am

I believe you would actually have to find a good Muslim before you could answer this question. :lol3:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby killingtime » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:27 pm

just wonder if perhaps some of u who support the( a muslim can be a good american thought) have ever been in a muslim country!i have as a usmc MGySgt . take a look at what thay do to each other over the religion thay support, met a lot of muslim people just like most places good and bad , but if u messup your bed dont give u the right to come to my rack :fingerpt:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:45 pm

The quicker people realize it's not about Islam vs Christianity, or Buddhism or Judaism, or whatever, and that it's about Islam versus the US constitution the clearer your minds will be. I find it funny how some people will be outraged by one politician who speaks out against certain rights provide by the constitution, and make their agenda known, but when a WHOLE religion contradicts freedom we have to tolerate it..... Wrong!
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby wanapasaki » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:23 pm

I learn something new on this site everyday lol. I had a linguist that worked for me in my squad in Taji named Hussed. He was muslim and was given american citizenship. He lived in the states with us a little over 2 years and then deployed with us in 2006. Never thought, nor do I think he will ever prove to be a bad american. He helped rescue 5 of our own guys after we got held down during a recovery operation for a major and his jet... :huh: I miss that funny sob :beer:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:27 pm

wanapasaki wrote:I learn something new on this site everyday lol. I had a linguist that worked for me in my squad in Taji named Hussed. He was muslim and was given american citizenship. He lived in the states with us a little over 2 years and then deployed with us in 2006. Never thought, nor do I think he will ever prove to be a bad american. He helped rescue 5 of our own guys after we got held down during a recovery operation for a major and his jet... :huh: I miss that funny sob :beer:


Maybe he was a bad Muslim :lol3:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby wanapasaki » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:30 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
wanapasaki wrote:I learn something new on this site everyday lol. I had a linguist that worked for me in my squad in Taji named Hussed. He was muslim and was given american citizenship. He lived in the states with us a little over 2 years and then deployed with us in 2006. Never thought, nor do I think he will ever prove to be a bad american. He helped rescue 5 of our own guys after we got held down during a recovery operation for a major and his jet... :huh: I miss that funny sob :beer:


Maybe he was a bad Muslim :lol3:


Couldn't tell you. To be honest, not all that concerned about his religion. I know he never missed 1 of 1,000 prayers a day :lol3:
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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby aunt betty » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:47 pm

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Re: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Postby killingtime » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:48 pm

religion,s not my point what im pointing out is how different people see things in different way,s we go to a muslim country we do not wish to stop a religion, as i was told it was to help set a free gov.any one religion,money,politics, can and will start war,s if you have a violent religion,and add politics,money (oil) you get war as i posted before people ,some good some bad .and what i ment about ,my rack ! is my country,our law,s and the way of life so much work has paid for ! if you had good one in your outfit know this you were lucky ,on 6 occasion,s in 3 deployment,s we found it less so
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