Glimmerjim wrote: High Sierras wrote: Glimmerjim wrote: High Sierras wrote: Glimmerjim wrote:
Other than the last paragraph, which to me is just emotionally charged discriminatory generalization, I believe you have made your point very well, HS. Thanks for the insight.
I didn't generalize... I specifically said the ones who pushed the agenda
were being just plain rude. I'm sure there are a lot of homosexuals out there who just want to live their lives in peace -- and don't feel the need to force their views on their neighbors.
Rosa Parks didn't live a life of obsequieous acceptance, either, HS.
Also, Rosa Parks was protesting the policies of the city bus...a public transporation agency that did
accept taxpayer monies to conduct business. A better analogy to what happenned to the Scouts would have been Rosa Parks demanding that she and all other black women be allowed to joint the Daughters of the Confederacy (a private organization), and then once in, demand the Daughters of the Confederacy revise their bylaws to state that all confederate soldiers were filthy slave holders and racists.
The Boy Scouts are not an organization that accepts taxpayer funds to continue operation?
No, the Boy Scouts neither accepts nor receives taxpayer funds to operate. The bulk of the budget is paid in scout dues; the balance is made up from private donations and a little on popcorn and gear sales.
About the closest I've heard anyone link the BSA to taxpayer funds is the DoD gave the scouts the 'right' to use fort AP Hill for 4 weeks once every 4 years. Oh, and by the way... the national BSA paid over a hundred thousand dollars to improve the fort... they paid to put in water lines, sewage lines, electrical distribution network, bathrooms, showers, a mess hall.... all on the Scouts dime, donated to the base for the millitary to use all year long (all four years long, to be exact) so once every four years the Scouts can hold the national jamboree there for four weeks. And before you say something to the effect that all the food and water is taxpayer funded; the individual scouts pay $2500 each to go to Jamboree. Dads, Scoutmasters, and adult staff have to pay $2000 each, to cover the cost of food, water, electricity and insurance (to camp in tents for a month). So much for recieving taxpayer monies.
The BSA haters say that the Jamboree costs the taxpayers $2 million per event in personnel and material costs. The DoD uses the event as a means of on hands training for their Corps of Engineers, Mil Police, Medical staff, etc. to be able to provide shelter, food, and sanitation for a large (upwards of 50,000 boys go to Jamboree) group of people in case of a natural disaster. I'd be willing to bet the DoD sees it as a brgain, considering how much training costs. Granted, taking care of 50,000 self-sufficient scouts has got to be way easier than taking care of 2,000 of New Orleans finest citizens after Katrina, but the DoD does get some training out of it.... they probably learn as much from the scouts on how to do it as they do from the event itself.
Glimmerjim wrote: As a Tax Exempt organization they are reaping monetary benefits from all tax-payers.
So...are you saying that a charity not paying income on donations is reaping monetary benefits from taxpayers? How? As a tax exempt organization the Boy Scouts are not paying income taxes on the donations they solicit. doesn't sound like much of a monetary benefit to me. Just like the Sierra Club or Planned Parenthood. Do you think they are reaping monetary benefits from all taxpayers too? Should we recind Planned Parenthood from tax exempt status because it violates my concience by spending my taxpayer money to pay for an act I find morally repugnant? How about Ducks Unlimited? I'm sure some vegan out there thinks what DU does to promote the murder of featherpersons should not be tax exempt either...
Glimmerjim wrote:The bus system is funded, at least theoretically, by user participation, according to you exactly as is the Boy Scout Association. Why should one be forced to be inclusionary and one allowed to be exclusionary?
Because the Boy Scouts are a private organization, the city bus is a governmental agency. Governmental agencies are mandated to be inclusionary. Private organizations can choose to include or exclude whomever they want, for whatever reason they want. Freedom of association and all.