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Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:53 am



DOMA goes bye bye. :hi: :clapping:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/High-court-Prop-8-backers-lack-standing-4623079.php

I'm happy to see at least 5 members of the court have read the 14th amendment.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby WTN10 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:57 am

slowshooter wrote:

DOMA goes bye bye. :hi: :clapping:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/High-court-Prop-8-backers-lack-standing-4623079.php

I'm happy to see at least 5 members of the court have read the 14th amendment.


Except that the Court struck down DOMA under the 5th Amendment:

Syllabus Author wrote:Held:

...

2. DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of
persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment. Pp. 13–26.


:fingerhead:

A 14th Amendment Equal Protection holding would incorporate the right to gay marriage and make it binding on all states; something which the Court, based upon a lot of the language in the ruling which emphasized a State's inherent authority to define marriage, seems unlikely to now do.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby Indawoods » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:01 am

yes it is. the VRA section 4 criteria from 50 years ago is history. :thumbsup:

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:01 am

WTN10 wrote:
slowshooter wrote:

DOMA goes bye bye. :hi: :clapping:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/High-court-Prop-8-backers-lack-standing-4623079.php

I'm happy to see at least 5 members of the court have read the 14th amendment.


Except that the Court struck down DOMA under the 5th Amendment:

Syllabus Author wrote:Held:

...

2. DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of
persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment. Pp. 13–26.


:fingerhead:

A 14th Amendment Equal Protection holding would incorporate the right to gay marriage and make it binding on all states; something which the Court, based upon a lot of the language in the ruling which emphasized a State's inherent authority to define marriage, seems unlikely to now do.


Are you saying I should actually read the ruling? :lol3:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby WTN10 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:02 am

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:04 am

Indawoods wrote:yes it is. the VRA section 4 criteria from 50 years ago is history. :thumbsup:

here comes voter ID.


Doesn't bother me a bit. :grooving:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby swampbilly 1980 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:59 am

Slow-
Respectfully,.. the topic?

Don't you mean-

"Good day to be a Gay American"?
Amazes me that the headlines on this subject reads:

"Nation reacts to gay marriage decisions"

As if every single individual human being in this country is simutaneously jumping up and down in the same quagmire of celebration over something stupid-
Now if those folks in Cal. don't stop jumping up and down so hard, soon it could cause an uneven shift of the continent and cause the San Andreas to finally split wide open.
Oops.
Never mind.
Keep jumping! :lol3:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:59 pm

swampbilly 1980 wrote:Slow-
Respectfully,.. the topic?

Don't you mean-

"Good day to be a Gay American"?
Amazes me that the headlines on this subject reads:

"Nation reacts to gay marriage decisions"

As if every single individual human being in this country is simutaneously jumping up and down in the same quagmire of celebration over something stupid-
Now if those folks in Cal. don't stop jumping up and down so hard, soon it could cause an uneven shift of the continent and cause the San Andreas to finally split wide open.
Oops.
Never mind.
Keep jumping! :lol3:


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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:13 pm

97% of Washingtonians want it to happen right now!
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:39 pm

swampbilly 1980 wrote:Slow-
Respectfully,.. the topic?

Don't you mean-

"Good day to be a Gay American"?
Amazes me that the headlines on this subject reads:

"Nation reacts to gay marriage decisions"

As if every single individual human being in this country is simutaneously jumping up and down in the same quagmire of celebration over something stupid-
Now if those folks in Cal. don't stop jumping up and down so hard, soon it could cause an uneven shift of the continent and cause the San Andreas to finally split wide open.
Oops.
Never mind.
Keep jumping! :lol3:



No mistake there. It is a good day to be an American.You should try to figure out why.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby swampbilly 1980 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:33 am

slowshooter wrote:
swampbilly 1980 wrote:Slow-
Respectfully,.. the topic?

Don't you mean-

"Good day to be a Gay American"?
Amazes me that the headlines on this subject reads:

"Nation reacts to gay marriage decisions"

As if every single individual human being in this country is simutaneously jumping up and down in the same quagmire of celebration over something stupid-
Now if those folks in Cal. don't stop jumping up and down so hard, soon it could cause an uneven shift of the continent and cause the San Andreas to finally split wide open.
Oops.
Never mind.
Keep jumping! :lol3:



No mistake there. It is a good day to be an American.You should try to figure out why.

I've exhausted every brain cell I've got trying to figure that out-(all three of 'em :wink: )

Could sure use your help to gain some insight on how much more proud-er I should be to be an American as a result of this ruling, and how it adds to the quality of my life.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:58 am

No one should ever think that because they voted they are entitled to get their way. No one should think that because they created legislation that they are entitled it be made permanent. Especially if what one voted for, or pushed through as legislation is unconstitutional.

Cultures shift. Someday, when everyone in your religion, or white folks, or anyone else gets the short end of the stick because the immoral majority believes they should be treated unfairly. It's these kinds of rulings that are going to save the people being treated poorly.

Our laws protect the people and the constitution. You might be unhappy that Gays got their way. But you should be very happy that SCOTUS recognized DOMA as unconstitutional. Laws that discriminate can be used against anyone - it's best they not take hold.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby Gunnysway » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:44 am

slowshooter wrote:No one should ever think that because they voted they are entitled to get their way. No one should think that because they created legislation that they are entitled it be made permanent. Especially if what one voted for, or pushed through as legislation is unconstitutional.
Sorta' like ACA?


Cultures shift. Someday, when everyone in your religion, or white folks, or anyone else gets the short end of the stick because the immoral majority believes they should be treated unfairly. It's these kinds of rulings that are going to save the people being treated poorly.

Our laws protect the people and the constitution. You might be unhappy that Gays got their way. But you should be very happy that SCOTUS recognized DOMA as unconstitutional. Laws that discriminate can be used against anyone - it's best they not take hold.



I agree...? :eek:

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:07 pm

Gunnysway wrote:
slowshooter wrote:No one should ever think that because they voted they are entitled to get their way. No one should think that because they created legislation that they are entitled it be made permanent. Especially if what one voted for, or pushed through as legislation is unconstitutional.
Sorta' like ACA?


Cultures shift. Someday, when everyone in your religion, or white folks, or anyone else gets the short end of the stick because the immoral majority believes they should be treated unfairly. It's these kinds of rulings that are going to save the people being treated poorly.

Our laws protect the people and the constitution. You might be unhappy that Gays got their way. But you should be very happy that SCOTUS recognized DOMA as unconstitutional. Laws that discriminate can be used against anyone - it's best they not take hold.



I agree...? :eek:

:beer:


That's right...
but marriage ha(d)s a definition, by that definition no one (not gays) was being discriminated against.

Let's not pretend this is about anything but votes and money.
The Ds wanted votes, and the gays wanted money.

They had the privilege to get married to a person of the opposite sex, same privilege I had, same privilege you had...
Not discrimination! No one was getting treated any different.

The reason that our Government (and others for 100s maybe 1000s of years) recognized marriage between a man and a women, was to promote responsible reproduction (furthering the future of our (or their) culture(s)).

They promoted this through tax brakes and other benefits...

I want to pose one question to all of you, as a single person (that pays taxes) I am left to foot the bill, what the hell does a gay couple bring to the table that furthers the advancement of our culture that makes them worthy of those tax incentives?
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby High Sierras » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:03 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I want to pose one question to all of you, as a single person (that pays taxes) I am left to foot the bill, what the hell does a gay couple bring to the table that furthers the advancement of our culture that makes them worthy of those tax incentives?



Apparently this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1USxHOEX1U

Although I'm not sure many would consider it an advancement of our culture... :no: :no: :no:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby dudejcb » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:41 pm

Indawoods wrote:yes it is. the VRA section 4 criteria from 50 years ago is history. :thumbsup:

here comes voter ID.

I think you're intermixing mixing SCOTUS decisions. Is that legal?
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby swampbilly 1980 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:00 pm

High Sierras wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I want to pose one question to all of you, as a single person (that pays taxes) I am left to foot the bill, what the hell does a gay couple bring to the table that furthers the advancement of our culture that makes them worthy of those tax incentives?



Apparently this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1USxHOEX1U

Although I'm not sure many would consider it an advancement of our culture... :no: :no: :no:

:lol3:
That's a mighty big bowl of fruit loops there. Glad to know they've got "equal rights" to guv.,I mean, (OUR) funding :thumbsup:

Pass the milk please.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:33 pm

Didn't click on the link but I'm sure it titillated a few of you. :lol3:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby Indawoods » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:23 pm

dudejcb wrote:
Indawoods wrote:yes it is. the VRA section 4 criteria from 50 years ago is history. :thumbsup:

here comes voter ID.

I think you're intermixing mixing SCOTUS decisions. Is that legal?


read the title of the thread. read my response.

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:46 am

All this for a bowl of borscht.
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby cartervj » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:23 am

Yes since they can be in love so much more now :huh: :lol3:

everyone know what happens when you get married :hammer: :lol3:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby Glimmerjim » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:53 am

cartervj wrote:Yes since they can be in love so much more now :huh: :lol3:

everyone know what happens when you get married :hammer: :lol3:

:lol3: :lol3: Someone said that if they really wanted to stop Gay Marriage they should outlaw Gay Divorce! :lol3:
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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby beretta24 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:58 pm

Glimmerjim wrote:
cartervj wrote:Yes since they can be in love so much more now :huh: :lol3:

everyone know what happens when you get married :hammer: :lol3:

:lol3: :lol3: Someone said that if they really wanted to stop Gay Marriage they should outlaw Gay Divorce! :lol3:

If only everyone who got married looked at it that way.

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby slowshooter » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:04 pm

I'm waiting for all the "I hate gaze" heterosexuals to stop getting married because the Gays "roont it".

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Re: Good day to be an American.

Postby cartervj » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:37 pm

why would they :welcome:

gaze might realize careful what you wish for, you just might get it :lol3:
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