ScaupHunter wrote:I read the post with the information you referenced. No where in there does it say you can randomly shoot people on your property just because they are armed.
No where did I claim, or advocate that, you can "randomly" shoot people. What you can do is use deadly force to defend your property (or a third party's property) if any other action to defend would put you at risk of serious bodily injury. Approaching someone with a firearm puts you at risk of serious bodily injury, no? In fact, per the law, they don't even have to be in the act of committing the crime, only the imminent threat thereof. At night, they needn't even be armed, we get the benefit of the doubt. Not only that, but we can use deadly force if they're fleeing the scene to prevent them from escaping. I'm not saying everyone walking across your property needs shot, but TX gives us pretty wide protection from prosecution should a situation arise.
Are you applying the rules of engagement you had to adhere to to our state's laws? Your ROE's were more strict than Texas' law, maybe you don't realize this?
No charges filed here either:http://www.khou.com/news/local/Family-members-shocked-after-man-is-fatally-shot-while-taking-dog-for-walk---209118421.html
Here's your border shootings:http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_d7c6dffc-7ccb-11e0-a7bb-001cc4c002e0.html
We (and Indiana) can even shoot trespassing cops if they're using force:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/14/should-citizens-be-able-to-shoot-police-if-they-trespass
ScaupHunter wrote:Your theory and post were both obtuse and showed a severe lack of insight into your own laws. There has to be some form of threat or intent of theft or damage under Texas law to shoot another person on your property. Someone just passing through cannot be shot as you posted.
Did you read Easttx link? It happens, and note that the article states he was taken in to make a statement, he was not arrested. Carrying a gun on my property is a justifiable threat. Being on my property at all
at night is justifiable threat. Why can't you understand that?
ScaupHunter wrote:Washington state does have laws that allow you to defend your property. The simple fact is that those laws are ignored as is the fact that we do not have to retreat from a threat under our law. They use the reasonable action clauses which do not say you have to retreat to try and force that political issue into a legal matter. Hence while you have a legal right to do something the system is going to try and hang you for it anyway. This is one of thousands of examples I can give that show you have to understand your own laws, work within, through, or around them.
How should I put this?
Your posts need a little more support there, bub.
For that matter, you haven't provided a shred of support for ANYTHING you've said here.
Maybe you should move to a state that recognizes the rights afforded it's citizens when they're exercised.
ScaupHunter wrote:Just because some beaurocrat makes a law does not mean you should just blindly follow it. People who decide they are to afraid to challenge bad laws have taken the safety over freedom approach. Frankly to paraphrase, they deserve neither.
But you've actually claimed something entirely different. You said Washington has laws that allow the defense of your property (so the bureaucrat did the right thing,) but when you follow it, the legal system will "try and hang you for it." You don't have a bad law. You have a good law and a crappy legal system enforcing it. Your assertion doesn't make the least bit of sense.
ScaupHunter wrote:Are you obtuse or just arguing for the fun of it. When wrestling with a pig in the mud you sooner or later realize you cannot win. The pig is enjoying himself and has zero intention of stopping.
I can assure you, I'm not obtuse. This is really getting kind of sad. I've been able to make Alzheimer's patients and meth-heads understand better than you've been able to grasp anything here. You have no consistent stance other than "I'm not wrong, you're wrong and stupid and liberal and hypocritical and blah blah blah." Take a while and organize your thoughts, it's getting embarrassing.