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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:05 pm

And meanwhile, while we're talking about all this, have you managed to find all those hundreds of cases where liberal organizations challenged a muslims right to practice their religion, or to wear religiously-dictated garb? I didn't think so. The ACLU is, however, trying to allow schools to allow muslim prayer.

Keep looking.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:27 pm

assateague wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote:
http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/jameel-jaffer-canadian-emerges-as-voice-for-detainees/


Comes from the "Ismaili Muslims in the News" section of their website.


The link in your link actually says he is not a Muslim.



It says no such thing. It says he isn't a "practicing muslim" , whatever that means, which I find a little difficult to believe, seeing as how he speaks at Muslim Student associations, CAIR fundraisers, and the like.


I was raised Methodist. I am not practicing. Seems easy to follow to me.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:28 pm

assateague wrote:And meanwhile, while we're talking about all this, have you managed to find all those hundreds of cases where liberal organizations challenged a muslims right to practice their religion, or to wear religiously-dictated garb? I didn't think so. The ACLU is, however, trying to allow schools to allow muslim prayer.

Keep looking.


I did look. Found none. We agree on this.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ScaupHunter » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:34 pm

Slow can call it anything he wants it is still truth. There is a distinct agenda in the liberal circle to destroy anything christian, responsibility for actions, and accountability of any kind. Their agenda is clear socialism. And the best part will be that once they achieve their goals the Muslims will roll them under and make them all slaves to their radicalized religious beliefs.

This is a case of the blind, leading the stupid, leading the obtuse. :lol3:
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:36 pm

ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote:
http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/jameel-jaffer-canadian-emerges-as-voice-for-detainees/


Comes from the "Ismaili Muslims in the News" section of their website.


The link in your link actually says he is not a Muslim.



It says no such thing. It says he isn't a "practicing muslim" , whatever that means, which I find a little difficult to believe, seeing as how he speaks at Muslim Student associations, CAIR fundraisers, and the like.


I was raised Methodist. I am not practicing. Seems easy to follow to me.


Are you methodist?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:04 pm

assateague wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote:
http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/jameel-jaffer-canadian-emerges-as-voice-for-detainees/


Comes from the "Ismaili Muslims in the News" section of their website.


The link in your link actually says he is not a Muslim.



It says no such thing. It says he isn't a "practicing muslim" , whatever that means, which I find a little difficult to believe, seeing as how he speaks at Muslim Student associations, CAIR fundraisers, and the like.


I was raised Methodist. I am not practicing. Seems easy to follow to me.


Are you methodist?


No.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:35 pm

Exactly. Why didn't you say you were a "non-practicing" Methodist?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:55 pm

assateague wrote:Exactly. Why didn't you say you were a "non-practicing" Methodist?


His line of business probably likes to hear non-practicing. Yes?

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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:15 pm

No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:18 pm

assateague wrote:No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?


I don't speak like that. Sorry dude. If you asked me if I was a vegetarian or catholic or had two heads I would say no.

I don't have a thousand degrees like that dude does.

Call me dumb. I say no.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:20 pm

assateague wrote:No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?


Am I a non-practicing soccer player, single guy, Boy Scout, 5th grade math team alternate and sponsor of a Spanish dance team?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:11 pm

No. Which is exactly my point. If anyone asked you "are you a soccer player?", by your own words you would say "no". But in this case the option selected was "non practicing Muslim", rather than "no".

So yes, he is Muslim.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:34 pm

I guess I see it as a choice of words, no more.

If he did choose, I would say it is to give himself some credit on the subject. Would you rather have an atheist or former Muslim making statements? For the ACLU, it is a benefit to have a "non-practicing" Muslim rather than, say, me or you. Looks better to the federal government too.

Guess I am a non- practicing virgin. :grooving:
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby cartervj » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:53 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:Slow can call it anything he wants it is still truth. There is a distinct agenda in the liberal circle to destroy anything christian, responsibility for actions, and accountability of any kind. Their agenda is clear socialism. And the best part will be that once they achieve their goals the Muslims will roll them under and make them all slaves to their radicalized religious beliefs.

This is a case of the blind, leading the stupid, leading the obtuse. :lol3:


the reason for the liberals attack on Christianity is simple, it's one of the foundations of conservative views
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:29 pm

assateague wrote:No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?

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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby cartervj » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:37 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/30/obamas-war-on-religion-in-the-ranks

President Obama is a wartime Commander-in-Chief. No, I don’t mean the obvious (Iraq or Afghanistan). I’m talking about his preference for waging a race war, a gender war, class warfare, generational warfare, and – with escalating aggression and mounting casualties – a culture war. With the exceptions of free enterprise and traditional marriage, no institution has been more “radically transformed” by the Obama regime than our Armed Forces. Given President Obama’s notorious contempt for Americans who “cling to their Bibles” and “guns,” perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised by his Administration’s hostility to service members who espouse traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs.

The persecution of Christians and conservatives has become increasingly brazen and pervasive since the President took office four and half years ago. To “protect patients” from proselytizing or prayer, Walter Reed Army Medical Center banned wounded warriors’ family members from “bringing or using Bibles” during visits. The Department of Veterans Affairs barred Christian prayers at a National Cemetery. The President signed the law that repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” the Attorney General refused to defend the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in court, and the Department of Defense authorized unholy "matrimony" ceremonies at military installations even before the Supreme Court struck down part of DOMA.

A war games scenario at Ft. Leavenworth identified evangelical Christian groups as a national security threat.
A field grade officer listed the American Family Association and Family Research Council as “domestic hate groups” and directed his subordinate officers to monitor soldiers who might be supporters. Evangelist Franklin Graham was un-invited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer service. A training exercise funded by the Department of Homeland Security portrayed home-schooling families as the domestic terrorists.

Last year, I introduced the Military Religious Freedom Protection Act. The bill requires the military to accommodate service members’ moral principles and religious beliefs so long as they don’t “threaten good order and discipline,” forbids the military from using an individual’s beliefs as the basis for an adverse personnel action, and forbids the military from forcing chaplains to perform homosexual marriage ceremonies. My bill’s language was included in the National Defense Authorization Act passed by Congress last December.
When President Obama signed it into law, he claimed the conscience protections I authored were “unnecessary and ill-advised.” But recent events confirm the new law was necessary, well-advised, and prophetic. These episodes exemplify the new military culture, one that rebukes those who practice Christianity and rewards those who worship at the altar of political correctness.

Army Master Sergeant Nathan Sommers’ superiors told him to remove the conservative, Republican, and scripture-quoting bumper stickers from his personal vehicle. He was told he must avoid being seen reading books authored by Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, or David Limbaugh while in uniform. He was investigated for serving Chick-fil-A food at his promotion party to express his support for traditional marriage. In retribution, the Army is pursuing trumped up disciplinary charges against him.

The Utah Air National Guard cancelled the six-year re-enlistment contract of Tech Sergeant Layne Wilson because he told a chaplain he thought the chapel at West Point shouldn’t be used for a homosexual wedding. An Air Force officer was required to hide from view the Bible he once kept on top of his desk. An Air Force chaplain’s video tribute to sergeants was banned for fear it would offend an “agnostic, atheist, or Muslim.” The chaplain’s video narration said: “On the eighth day, God looked down on His creation and said, ‘I need someone who will take care of the Airmen.’ So God created a First Sergeant.”

Coast Guard Rear Admiral William Lee told a National Day of Prayer audience that Christian service members are being told to hide their faith and religious liberty is being threatened by Pentagon lawyers. Army Reserve training materials listed Evangelical Christianity, Catholicism, and Orthodox Judaism as extremist religious groups alongside Al-Qaeda and Hamas. This is especially outrageous since the Obama Administration continues to classify the mass shooting at Ft. Hood (in which 13 people were killed by Army Major Nidal Hasan) as “workplace violence” rather than admit it was a terrorist attack carried out by a radicalized Muslim.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby WTN10 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:47 pm

Equating conservatism with Christianity is deplorable. Christianity is a religion. Conservatism is a political philosophy. One's religious views can and often do shape political philosophy, but there are plenty of atheist conservatives and classical liberals, as well as believing neo-liberals. Penn Jillette is a raving atheist and Libertarian. Conversely, Faith Hill is a confessing Christian and closet Democrat.

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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby beretta24 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:51 pm

WTN10 wrote:Equating conservatism with Christianity is deplorable. Christianity is a religion. Conservatism is a political philosophy. One's religious views can and often do shape political philosophy, but there are plenty of atheist conservatives and classical liberals, as well as believing neo-liberals. Penn Jillette is a raving atheist and Libertarian. Conversely, Faith Hill is a confessing Christian and closet Democrat.

Religion≠Conservatism or Republican

Doesn't mean people don't do it, which isn't to say you claimed otherwise.

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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:06 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
assateague wrote:No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?

In islam, A "non-practicing Muslim" deserves death as dictated by God through the Koran.......

What is the punishment for a non practicing christian?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:08 pm

WTN10 wrote:Equating conservatism with Christianity is deplorable. Christianity is a religion. Conservatism is a political philosophy. One's religious views can and often do shape political philosophy, but there are plenty of atheist conservatives and classical liberals, as well as believing neo-liberals. Penn Jillette is a raving atheist and Libertarian. Conversely, Faith Hill is a confessing Christian and closet Democrat.

Religion≠Conservatism or Republican


You're religion? Maybe. Not the one I was brought up in,
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:21 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
assateague wrote:No. Actually they would NOT like to hear that, since there is no such thing. My point is, describing oneself as a "non-practicing" anything still categorizes you as belonging to whatever it is. Just because a gay guy hasn't canned a guy in theass for 9 years doesn't make him straight. He may describe himself as a "non-practicing homosexual", but that still means he's gay.

If it doesn't mean anything, or there is no degree of "belonging" involved, why did you not describe yourself as a "non-practicing" Methodist?

In islam, A "non-practicing Muslim" deserves death as dictated by God through the Koran.......

So there are no reformed Muslims?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby WTN10 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:53 am

ohioboy wrote:
WTN10 wrote:Equating conservatism with Christianity is deplorable. Christianity is a religion. Conservatism is a political philosophy. One's religious views can and often do shape political philosophy, but there are plenty of atheist conservatives and classical liberals, as well as believing neo-liberals. Penn Jillette is a raving atheist and Libertarian. Conversely, Faith Hill is a confessing Christian and closet Democrat.

Religion≠Conservatism or Republican


You're religion? Maybe. Not the one I was brought up in,


This does not make sense.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Andy W » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:31 am

ohioboy wrote:What is the punishment for a non practicing christian?

Hell.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby ohioboy » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:57 am

WTN10 wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
WTN10 wrote:Equating conservatism with Christianity is deplorable. Christianity is a religion. Conservatism is a political philosophy. One's religious views can and often do shape political philosophy, but there are plenty of atheist conservatives and classical liberals, as well as believing neo-liberals. Penn Jillette is a raving atheist and Libertarian. Conversely, Faith Hill is a confessing Christian and closet Democrat.

Religion≠Conservatism or Republican


You're religion? Maybe. Not the one I was brought up in,


This does not make sense.


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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Glimmerjim » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:28 pm

Andy W wrote:
ohioboy wrote:What is the punishment for a non practicing christian?

Hell.

Don't get frustrated. Just answer the question.
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