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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby beretta24 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:06 am

garyt wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:In islam, A "non-practicing Muslim" deserves death as dictated by God through the Koran.......



This is an outright LIE.
There are over 20 million Christians that live WITH Muslims today in peace. 250,000 Christians in Iran, 40,000 Jews in Iran. TODAY! In peace.
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Muslims refer to Christians and Jews as 'People Of The Book' that Must be protected.
Atheists are what are referred to as infidels. The Koran is very clear about this, what Ive read anyway.

In truth, Jews have subverted and infiltrated Islam.
Libyas Gaddafi was a Jew, The House of Saud are Jews. In Turkey the ruling party are Donmeh Jews, cryptos if you will.
Infiltration has been used for centuries. Their dietary and circumcision laws are identical. They are being used as a proxy to divide and conquer.


W T F....Osama was a Jew?!?!?!
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:14 pm

What's up with hating the Jewish people? They don't deserve that.

Better to just focus on a-holes and hate them instead. That way you get to pick and choose from every walk of life (Jews included) and legitimately rail on misdeeds and general douchbaggery of the people that actually deserve scorn.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:45 pm

garyt wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:In islam, A "non-practicing Muslim" deserves death as dictated by God through the Koran.......



This is an outright LIE.

Study some more....
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/apostasy.htm
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Isn't answering-Islam an anti Islam site? If so, there is nothing different from that site compared to one that was anti-christian. Every question about the religion would be answered with a bunch of negative hooey.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:57 pm

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slowshooter wrote:Isn't answering-Islam an anti Islam site? If so, there is nothing different from that site compared to one that was anti-christian. Every question about the religion would be answered with a bunch of negative hooey.


Both of you are spouting lies and nonsense.
The Qur'an teaches that there are faithful Christians and Jews:

" Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA)"

Jesus is spoken of more often in the Koran than any other person, other than Mohammed, as is HIS blessed Mother.

Ive been to Jordan.
It is populated with millions of Christians who live with Muslims, in Peace.
Same as Libya, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria well at least before the US Sponsored Islamic death squads to steal oil for Israel and hegemony for Israel.

Lies and nonsense? Hardly...
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy
Apostasy (ارتداد, irtidād and ridda) i.e. the rejection of faith, is a serious offense in Islam. The punishment for apostasy as prescribed by Prophet Muhammad is death. A murtad (مرتد apostate) who hides his apostasy is referred to as a munāfiq (منافق hypocrite)

It's in the religious texts of Islam. You can not hide it.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:05 pm

garyt wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:
garyt wrote:
slowshooter wrote:Isn't answering-Islam an anti Islam site? If so, there is nothing different from that site compared to one that was anti-christian. Every question about the religion would be answered with a bunch of negative hooey.


Both of you are spouting lies and nonsense.
The Qur'an teaches that there are faithful Christians and Jews:

" Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA)"

Jesus is spoken of more often in the Koran than any other person, other than Mohammed, as is HIS blessed Mother.

Ive been to Jordan.
It is populated with millions of Christians who live with Muslims, in Peace.
Same as Libya, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria well at least before the US Sponsored Islamic death squads to steal oil for Israel and hegemony for Israel.

Lies and nonsense? Hardly...
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy
Apostasy (ارتداد, irtidād and ridda) i.e. the rejection of faith, is a serious offense in Islam. The punishment for apostasy as prescribed by Prophet Muhammad is death. A murtad (مرتد apostate) who hides his apostasy is referred to as a munāfiq (منافق hypocrite)

It's in the religious texts of Islam. You can not hide it.


Again
20 Million Christians live today IN the Middle East, IN Peace.
Iran is home to more Jews than any other nation outside of Israel in Greater Middle East/Asia.

Apostasy has nothing to do with Judaism or Christianity, ie People Of the Book.
It refers to atheists. or Pagans.

Dude, you seriously cant be this retarded?

define "peace"...
Are you referring to the islamic idea of peace or the western idea of peace? the two are radically different.
Take your taqqiyya and GTFOH! Apostasy by definition is a muslim that has renounced islam or is not following the tenants of islam. The punishment as prescribed by Mohammad himself is death.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:09 pm

from the wiki link:
Definitions

In Islam, the rejection in part (of any of the pillars, or individual principles of Islam), or discarding the faith as a whole, amounts to apostasy.[1] The punishment for apostasy in the Islamic faith is death.


continuing...
scholars have found justification for the penalty from within its pages, and there are also numerous Sahih (authentic) hadiths confirming this punishment as attested by Prophet Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, we see it as “Allah's Apostle said, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him'”,[2] and it was also one of only three reasons given by him where killing a Muslim is permitted.[3]
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:12 pm

garyt wrote:
slowshooter wrote:Isn't answering-Islam an anti Islam site? If so, there is nothing different from that site compared to one that was anti-christian. Every question about the religion would be answered with a bunch of negative hooey.


Both of you are spouting lies and nonsense.
The Qur'an teaches that there are faithful Christians and Jews:

" Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA)"

Jesus is spoken of more often in the Koran than any other person, other than Mohammed, as is HIS blessed Mother.

Ive been to Jordan.
It is populated with millions of Christians who live with Muslims, in Peace.
Same as Libya, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria well at least before the US Sponsored Islamic death squads to steal oil for Israel and hegemony for Israel.



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"You are liar and make no sense..."

Our next chapter will include how to distract people talking politics with racial issues and pushing buttons with nationalism and hate.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:45 pm

continuing...
Historical Context

An evaluation of Islam's attitude to apostasy would not be complete without expounding on the political make up of the religion. Islam is essentially a tribal system that once was the social composition of Arabia in the north. Society, in its absolute sense, had never been in existence in the north prior to Islam. All that existed there were certain assemblages that never flourished or evolved into a fully fledged society for several reasons; one being, that most at that time were nomads wandering throughout the desert. Religion was not a personal but communal affair in pre-Islamic Arabia. Deserting religion thus amounted to treason and so was punishable by death. The death penalty being incorporated into Islam for apostasy is better understood when viewed through this tribal prism. Muhammad once belonged to this way of life, but reshuffled society and he did so by organizing certain tribes under one roof without sacrificing much of the already existing norms. Muhammad was successful, thus, did not venture to get rid of all pre-existing tribal prescripts. Instead, he assimilated many of them into his new religion. The prescribed punishment for apostasy was one such practice which Muhammad annexed.
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:00 pm

garyt wrote:Have you ever read the Jewish TALMUD?

yes or no..

what is your point? do you deny the truth in my post?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:04 pm

garyt wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:
garyt wrote:Have you ever read the Jewish TALMUD?

yes or no..

what is your point? do you deny the truth in my post?


Considering you dont know the differnce between a Christian, Jew, or Infidel I deny everything you type..

I asked you a yes/no question. Have you or have you not read the Jewish TALMUD or are you a Jew?

I always thought after reading it, that it made Islam sound G rated in comparison.

wut?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:09 pm

@GaryT-Do you know the difference between Zionist and orthodox Jews?
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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:19 pm

garyt wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:
garyt wrote:Have you ever read the Jewish TALMUD?

yes or no..

what is your point? do you deny the truth in my post?


I deny everything you type..



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Re: Christianity's Bad?

Postby Andy W » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:14 am

Indaswamp wrote:Are you referring to the islamic idea of peace or the western idea of peace? the two are radically different.
Take your taqqiyya and GTFOH! Apostasy by definition is a muslim that has renounced islam or is not following the tenants of islam. The punishment as prescribed by Mohammad himself is death.

Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc. they're all the same:

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

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