High Sierras wrote:If we legalize marijuana, why not add all the other botanical pharmaceutical's?
You then go on to include cocaine and heroin, which, while not synthetic, are far from botanical. Coca leaves and opium poppies are not bad for you. When they are mixed with ammonia, gasoline, diesel fuel, some sulfuric acid, and cut with various other assorted crap, I would argue that they are as much a "botanical" as a car is "iron ore".
Also from what I understand, the current crop is about as botanical as any other domestic plant or animal. Selective breeding has been used to produce plants that have vastly more of the desired properties than Mother Nature ever intended. But natural doesn't mean it's OK for a lack of a better word. I guess by that standard, we should be allowed to smoke hemlock, lick toads, eat any poisonous or hallucinogenic mushrooms or ... Hey if it kills you or makes you high, it's all botanical
I am all for personal responsibility and if you want to lick toads that screw up your brain, if you are an adult, c'est la vie, but it is all on you. If you have kids and you are screwing up your life, we aren't going to let you screw up your kids life. If you are endangering your own life, we aren't going to let you endanger other people's life. If you can't feed your self, well, you better find a way to beat your addiction or find a person to be your enabler because you are not legally entitled to a single penny from other people taken via the power of government.
I'm all for liberal (classical definition and not a pseudonym for leftism) drug laws for adults, but we must have zero tolerance for enabling minors to get drugs. If done right, we can radically reduce the access minors have to drugs and that is all I care about. If you get to 18 without having smoked cigarettes, smoked crack, or used any other highly addictive drugs or used other less addictive drugs more than on very rare occasions, the odds of them ruining your life goes down a whole lot.
Personally, I like a system where possession remains illegal and the punishment gets much more harsh, but as an adult you can go to a business licensed and monitored much like we do with pharmaceuticals where you can purchase and consume your drugs on the premises. And if anyone is caught providing drugs to minors
When you are selling drugs when the only market is a black market, the risk/reward ratio for selling to minors is not that different than selling to an adult. I want to radically change that such that selling to a minor is a serious risk (jail time and lose your very lucrative business for the drug house proprietors) and the availability of legal alternatives will dry up most of the black market.
There is no reason that the ONLY alternatives are 100% illegal and 100% legal where you can walk into Walmart and walk out with a pound of pot. We have many tightly controlled drugs used legitimately for medicine. Do the same for recreational drugs, except do not allow the person to carry them out the door and if they do
Just like we have limits on how much sudafedrine people can buy so they can't use it to make meth, do the exact same thing with the recreational drugs.
Once we dry up most of the black market, we have a big hammer to hold over the head of the junkies. If they get busted for a crime, they go in the system and they lose the ability to legally buy their drugs. If you want to get a CDL, you go into the system and can't buy drugs. If you want a job as a teacher, sorry no drugs. If you want to voluntarily put your self into the system, no drugs.
After greatly reducing the minors access to drugs, the second most important thing is drying up the black market and all the violence and crime associated with that.
Stupid people can cause problems, but it usually takes brilliant people to create a real catastrophe. Thomas Sowell