go get the bird wrote:ohioboy wrote:go get the bird wrote:ohioboy wrote:go get the bird wrote:ohioboy wrote:sharris wrote:No where did she say incorrect answers from flawed thinking was fine if it could be articulated by the child. That was specifically addressed when she said they would be correcting wrong answers/thought process at 21-23 seconds into the video. She said the goal was to get them to compute correctly at 25-27 seconds. She said the goal was to not just know the answer was 12 but to know why it was 12 at 38-40 second.
I would rather my kids be able to say why something is right, rather than just it is right. If they show you their process you can correct the mistake. How else do you correct a mistake? Mind reader? Assa, since you don't have a degree in education like I do, how would you correct mistakes? You like mindless students without thinking skills?
That's exactly the point, and you've failed to comprehend it.
I'm not sure what you teach, nor does it matter, but I'll ask in the most elementary way possible:
If you we're an algebra teacher, and you asked this question on the test:
Simplify the following equation: 3X+2X^2+x^3=54
If the student simplified all the way down to the last step, correctly mind you, and some how managed to end up with X=4, what would you do? Do you give him credit for using the logic, or do you count it wrong, because after all, this IS math and he IS wrong?
Thanks for breaking it down.
Partial credit, but mind you I am not a math teacher. I teach social studies so there is lots of room for personal touch in essays. Not so much in multiple choice.
And maybe I missed it, but where does she say this is applied to testing situations?
Exactly what I thought you would say. You'd give credit for wrong answers, which allows the student to finish the test, or homework, or whatever, while never actually getting the problem correct. This is the point.
And by the way, I hope you can can simplify that. It's high school freshman math.
So how do you show a student where they went wrong? You credit to the fault. Just like hooking up with a chick. Or did you get a fully correct problem the first time?
Why would you credit a student for being wrong? That's insane. You punish for wrong answers, and reward for correct ones.
How would I teach it? Probably just like other teachers. I wouldn't, however, give credit for wrong answer. If you've failed it, you've failed it. I will show you how to do it, and break it down, step by step, but unless you can demonstrate to me completely, you've yet to master it, and don't deserve to move on.
Good. So you support the common core then. "Credit" during practice. Mastery during testing.
Do some homework next time.