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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby vincentpa » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:34 pm

slowshooter wrote:Syrian chicks are hot. That's why we need to invade. :lol3:


We have good friends that are Syrian, actually from the country. Some Christian but most muslim. I've been to a wedding too. Some of the girls are hot! There's a Syrian restaurant down the street from me. They are Christians. The girl who works there is hooooooooooot!
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby wanapasaki » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:36 pm

Lets just blast it, roll it over, and make Dubai II :beer:
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:34 am

Looks like some folks in DC are finally coming to their senses.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby Indaswamp » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:46 am

assateague wrote:Looks like some folks in DC are finally coming to their senses.

link??
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:58 am

assateague wrote:Looks like some folks in DC are finally coming to their senses.

I'll never believe it.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby assateague » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:40 am

Indaswamp wrote:
assateague wrote:Looks like some folks in DC are finally coming to their senses.

link??



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324463604579040421592941820.html
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby seastreet » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:32 pm

slowshooter wrote:Syrian chicks are hot. That's why we need to invade. :lol3:

That's the slow I know and laugh at!!! LOL
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby TrapperRob » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:47 pm

My brother.... Who may or may not be in the Army.. stated.... "If you think we aren't already there, you're naive"...
He also may or may not have stated... "I hope we don't take the bait"
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby clampdaddy » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:03 pm

I could see a couple possible scenarios. Originally I twas thinking that this may be the excuse we needed to have Israel make an ash tray out of Iran. We launch a couple missiles at strategic points in Syria (gotta destroy some of those arms we were back door dealing before they show up on the evening news), Iran flings a couple at Israel, Israel intercepts incoming missiles a few minutes AFTER they slung a salvo back at them. The UN can't say jack about it because it was an act of defence against an unwarranted attack from a hostile nation. Two birds, one stone.

But now Putin is showing some muscle, and England doesn't sound interested. Good thing we still have the French...... :lol3: !!! I'm thinking that after "exhaustive investigation" the credit for the (alleged) gas strikes will be given to Al Qaeda as an attempt to bait us in to do their dirty work. Obama comes out looking like a smart guy who dodged a trap rather than a wuss who didn't cold cock the guy who stepped across the line he drew in the sand.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby beretta24 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:00 am

clampdaddy wrote:I could see a couple possible scenarios. Originally I twas thinking that this may be the excuse we needed to have Israel make an ash tray out of Iran. We launch a couple missiles at strategic points in Syria (gotta destroy some of those arms we were back door dealing before they show up on the evening news), Iran flings a couple at Israel, Israel intercepts incoming missiles a few minutes AFTER they slung a salvo back at them. The UN can't say jack about it because it was an act of defence against an unwarranted attack from a hostile nation. Two birds, one stone.

But now Putin is showing some muscle, and England doesn't sound interested. Good thing we still have the French...... :lol3: !!! I'm thinking that after "exhaustive investigation" the credit for the (alleged) gas strikes will be given to Al Qaeda as an attempt to bait us in to do their dirty work. Obama comes out looking like a smart guy who dodged a trap rather than a wuss who didn't cold cock the guy who stepped across the line he drew in the sand.

For what's its worth I would never try cold cocking someone with several weeks warning. If we do, material targets will have been moved and/or we end up killing civilians. IF you're going in hard it should be done before sending a telegram.

Still hoping the CIC steps back. Yes, it would be showing weakness after his red line talk, but I think its better than jumping into another conflict alone.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby assateague » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:23 am

Normally, I'd agree. But nobody- and I mean NOBODY- perceives him as a strong leader, anyway. So if he doesn't do anything after his "red line" comments, it really doesn't matter. It won't change anybody's perceptions of him as a socialist wuss.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby SpinnerMan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:40 am

At this point, it will never happen, but what I would like to see him do is bomb the hell out of Assad AND bomb the hell out of the nutjob affiliated rebels and then come out and give a speech and say that sometimes in the interest of humanity in general and American in particular that both sides lose.

America loses no matter who wins over there. So let's do what is in our interest at this point.

Obama has well over 3 more years left in office. That is a long time for him to look so weak. He's painted himself into a corner and us with him. How do we get out? I think this might do it. Obama saves face and we don't help our enemies. We kill them all and let Allah sort them out. Martyrdom for everybody, even they get what they want. :yes:
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby pk38 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:44 pm

No, they will vote.... Then msnbc will somehow drag bush into it....... Most news is dumb including fox, cnn, and especially msnbc... If you hire Al Sharpton for anything you should redefine your mission as an enterprise... I am not racist..... Work with kids of all colors, but I hate race baiters most of all
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby SpinnerMan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:54 pm

Obama did come up with a very good political out.

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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby Indaswamp » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:19 pm

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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby MODuckkiller » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:02 am

Indaswamp wrote:Boom...
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby devildog28 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:14 pm

I wonder what the chances are of some of our brass finally growing a set and saying "eff you, we're not going to launch" if the retard and chief decides to go this alone. We have no business there.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:39 am

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/politics/us-syria/index.html

"My credibility is not on the line -- the international community's credibility is on the line," President Barack Obama said Wednesday in Sweden regarding his desire for a military strike in response to a suspected August chemical attack in Syria.


President Barack Obama said Wednesday the "red line" he previously spoke of regarding the use of chemical weapons in Syria wasn't his own, but the world's. "I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98%" of the world's population "passed a treaty forbidding (chemical weapons) use, even when countries are engaged in war," Obama said in Sweden.


President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the United States wants "to join with the international community" in an "effective response" to the use of chemical weapons in Syria.


Our great President. What a leader. Mr. The Buck Stops Anywhere Else. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

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The guy is a complete joke. He is correct, his credibility is not on the line. How could it be? There is no one left with which he has any.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby assateague » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:50 am

I got quite the kick out of this one. One of the loudest, hysterical voices against anything any other president did, the New York Times OpEd has really hit this one out of the park.

Bomb Syria, Even if It Is Illegal

...But if the White House takes international law seriously — as the State Department does — it cannot try to have it both ways. It must either argue that an “illegal but legitimate” intervention is better than doing nothing, or assert that international law has changed — strategies that I call “constructive noncompliance.” In the case of Syria, I vote for the latter.

Since Russia and China won’t help, Mr. Obama and allied leaders should declare that international law has evolved and that they don’t need Security Council approval to intervene in Syria.

This would be popular in many quarters, and I believe it’s the right thing to do. But if the American government accepts that the rule of law is the foundation of civilized society, it must be clear that this represents a new legal path.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/28/opinion/bomb-syria-even-if-it-is-illegal.html?_r=1&
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby swampbilly 1980 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:04 am

SpinnerMan wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/politics/us-syria/index.html

"My credibility is not on the line -- the international community's credibility is on the line," President Barack Obama said Wednesday in Sweden regarding his desire for a military strike in response to a suspected August chemical attack in Syria.


President Barack Obama said Wednesday the "red line" he previously spoke of regarding the use of chemical weapons in Syria wasn't his own, but the world's. "I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98%" of the world's population "passed a treaty forbidding (chemical weapons) use, even when countries are engaged in war," Obama said in Sweden.


President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the United States wants "to join with the international community" in an "effective response" to the use of chemical weapons in Syria.


Our great President. What a leader. Mr. The Buck Stops Anywhere Else. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

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The guy is a complete joke. He is correct, his credibility is not on the line. How could it be? There is no one left with which he has any.

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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby assateague » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:48 am

I will say this, also:

I don't like Obama, not even one little bit. Not his policies, not his behaviors, not his leadership, not his personality, nothing. BUT. To hear the same voices who were screaming about him using force in Syria now screaming about him asking Congress for permission is bush league. Those same folks now portray him as "weak" because he went to Congress, most often claiming it is an abdication of responsibility, or some sort of cop out. Well, you can't have it both ways. Being upset with him because he was going to launch some missiles, and then being upset because he DIDN'T launch missiles is quite frankly disgusting, and does nothing.

This isn't pointed at anyone here. More to the media, Fox News, and some of the talk shows as well. First they were screaming about not wanting to be involved, and now they're screaming about not being involved fast enough. It's nonsense, and it pisses me off. I don't like Obama, and I won't support him in his goals. But what I also will NOT do is "make up" reasons to bad mouth him. He does enough on his own, without me having to dream up some self-righteous outrage.
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby TrapperRob » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:59 am

We need to air drop lots of bacon over there, that will fix everything!
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby swampbilly 1980 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:32 am

assateague wrote: To hear the same voices who were screaming about him using force in Syria now screaming about him asking Congress for permission is bush league. Those same folks now portray him as "weak" because he went to Congress, most often claiming it is an abdication of responsibility, or some sort of cop out. Well, you can't have it both ways. Being upset with him because he was going to launch some missiles, and then being upset because he DIDN'T launch missiles is quite frankly disgusting, and does nothing.

Agree 'Teague.
He had the opportunity a looong time ago to seek out some solid advice from his military, and foreign affairs advisers when all of this Middle East crap began to unfold with chemical weapons and Assad.
I'm totally against an idiotic missile launching target practice debacle @ $1.3 million dollars a pop so that he can try to save a little face.
THE CACHE' OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS HAS BEEN MOVED TO CIVILIAN POPULATED AREAS :lol3:
First he tells us there's no terrorist threats to the U.S. anymore, and doesn't acknowledge, (to this day) whether or not the takeover in Syria was a coop.
He draws a "red line" mos. ago.
He moves a whole Naval battlefleet into the region, ONLY because of the pressure/critisism from both media and his colleagues from both sides- THEN decides he'll act without the blessing from the U.N., and without Congresses' approval, and without any supporting allies, (other than France).
THEN decides he'll appeal to Congress.
So the battlegroup SITS there, the chemical weapons get re-located, he goes and plays GOLF.

SOMETHING should have been done a long time ago to avoid all of this crap.
He did it-
Let him fix it.
If he had a son NOW, who would he look like?

Meanwhile -
Back at the ranch,.. we're still wondering about Holder, the IRS,, perjury, and WHEN are we going to get some answers about Benghazi?
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby wanapasaki » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:52 am

Indaswamp wrote:Boom...
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Re: U.S.- War with Syria?

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:03 am

That is simply not true. The oath does not force you to obey an unlawful order and places you under direct responsibility for your actions while under orders.
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