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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby vincentpa » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:26 am

WTN10 wrote:Sorry, but military spending is a crock of sh*t. The Republicans basically use the military as a jobs program while dolling out our money to big military donors. I'm as much a proponent of shrinking the size of the military as I am of getting rid of wasteful social programs. Fiscal responsibility is the same, regardless of whether it's your pet program.



It's very easy for you to make such a flippant remark like we need to shrink the size of the militray. Because you're an expert on the size of the military? Where? It seems to me that we are in need of a larger navy. After all, it was the latest excuse by the Joint Chiefs and Barry that we could not protect shipping in the Red Sea and Strait of Hormuz. Then there are all of those Chinese subs we have to contend with. Our Airforce? The Airforce's planes are aging rapidly exposing them to greater and greater threats from the rapidly expanding technology of our potential adversaries. Lord knows we wouldn't want to spend more money on the development of better cruise missiles and ordinance like JDAMs. The Army and Marines are stretched to the limits. Cut where?

There most certainly is waste. There is waste in any bureaucratic system with a large program like the military. The only thing Rumsfeld did properly was the recognition and at least the start of eliminating unnecessary weapons systems. But 9-11 happened and here we are.
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby TheSkunk » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:43 am

War Is A Racket by Marine General & Congressional Medal Of Honor Recipient Smedley Butler

WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?
Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?
This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.
For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby assateague » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:56 am

Mmmmmmm, McNuggets.
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby Gunnysway » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:21 pm

ANSWER THIS...!



Why no bacon wrapped McNuggets...
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby Indaswamp » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:23 pm

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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby ScaupHunter » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:21 am

Cuz bacon wrapped McNuggets wouldn't be healthy.....
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby Gunnysway » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:42 am

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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby CJ » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:18 pm

OK I'm curious, how about replying to his post, without cherry picking. I'd like to learn why we need to spend so much on military when we have so many other needs, like reducing the deficit.
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Re: Military Budget-Wow

Postby assateague » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:08 pm

Because military spending is pretty much the ONLY constitutionally mandated spending. Let's get rid of all that other crap, cut the federal bureaucracy in half, then we'll talk about the military budget.
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