gunnydman wrote:assateague wrote:Racism is not a negative word. It has no negative connotations whatsoever, it is merely a descriptor. When it is used for negative things, those negative things are what should be attacked, not the racism.
It simply means to do something based on race. However, since there's absolutely no "real" definition of race, it's pointless. Is someone black who has 2 black parents? Is someone black who has a black great great great great great great great great great great grandfather? There are no "degrees" to it, technically, so to even say "it depends on race" is silly.
Sorry I disagree.
If one (white) is accused of racism, the lawyers start the court filings, the slander starts, and the witch hunt starts.
It obviously has been ingrained as a kneejerk epithet to call any white that values logic, common sense, tribalism or even genetic survival over favoritism to one of a different race and is being used for victimhood purposes $$$$$.
The photo below is very provacative and I dont know what to make of it, but I cant argue with the logic either..
No "we" don't have our own history and that is the biggest advantage that "we" have. For most white Americans alive, they grew up with no memory of segregation or and worst mistreatment of minorities. We had our heroes, for lack of a better word, that could be of any race and never even thought about their race. My hands down favorite Yankee was Reggie Jackson. My favorite Steelers include Franco Harris and Lynn Swann. And nobody I was around ever thought about their race.gunnydman wrote:But whenever the word WHITE is mentioned as it relates to race, politics or interests, it is immediately shut down. Im not sure why.
We have our own history, but it is not taught, nor are our interests being promoted, in fact the opposite is true.
SpinnerMan wrote:The answer is not for more white people to be in the head. The answer is for white, black, hispanic, asian, native american, ... to judge people not by their skin color, not those like them and not those different than them. Race does NOT matter unless you are in the head. When that is the universal message. Then we are on the right track. Until then, the race hustlers and the political scumbags will continue there destructive ways.
Bloke wrote:SpinnerMan wrote:The answer is not for more white people to be in the head. The answer is for white, black, hispanic, asian, native american, ... to judge people not by their skin color, not those like them and not those different than them. Race does NOT matter unless you are in the head. When that is the universal message. Then we are on the right track. Until then, the race hustlers and the political scumbags will continue there destructive ways.
That sounds nice and all but when you have the majority of an entire race that is loyally following the likes of the NAACP, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and believe that they represent their best interests then you are dealing with a terribly misguided people. When you have 3 generations of people that blame their positions in life and shortcomings on "suppression" or "the man" instead of taking responsibility then there is nothing you or I can do for them. They have seen that they can exploit this and do it well. They indoctrinate their children from birth for the sole purpose of justifying the way they live. Until that cycle is broken, things will never change. Racism exists today because of the fact that it is exploited for personal gain, and the disdain of the exploiters for that very action.
Sometimes I wonder when black people will reject the patronizing insults of white progressives and their black handmaidens. After CNN's Piers Morgan's interview with the key witness in the George Zimmerman trial, he said: "Rachel Jeantel is not uneducated. She's a smart cookie." That's a remarkable conclusion. Here's a 19-year-old young lady, still in high school, who cannot read cursive and appears to be barely literate. Morgan may have meant Jeantel is smart -- for a black person.
Progressives treat blacks as victims in need of kid glove treatment and special favors, such as racial quotas and preferences. This approach has been tried in education for decades and has revealed itself a failure. I say it's time we explore other approaches. One approach is suggested by sports. Blacks excel -- perhaps dominate is a better word -- in sports such as basketball, football and boxing to such an extent that blacks are 80 percent of professional basketball players, are 66 percent of professional football players and, for decades, have dominated most professional boxing categories.
In sports, when have you heard a coach explain or excuse a black player's poor performance by blaming it on a "legacy of slavery" or on that player's being raised in a single-parent household? When have you heard sports standards called racist or culturally biased? I have yet to hear a player, much less a coach, speak such nonsense.
When black Americans finally recognize the harm of the progressive agenda, I'm betting they will be the nation's most conservative people, for who else has been harmed by progressivism as much?
I don't believe their culture is perpetual. It is a creation of the race hustlers and Democrat establishment trying to create an impenetrable power base of poverty.Bloke wrote:We are in agreement, but I also think that there is genuine hate and disdain from blacks against whites that is perpetuated due to their culture.
SpinnerMan wrote:I think it is invest in education without any motivation other than education.
If you went to those hellholes they call a school, your graduation rates would be pathetic. If you had every "leader" telling you that even though they made it, you cannot, your graduation rate would be pathetic. The race hustlers and Democrat establishment work very hard to convince them they deserve no more than the hell hole they live in and how hopeless and pointless it would be to bust your ass in school since it wouldn't matter anyways. It took generations to create the culture of hopelessness and dependency. It will take a long time to undo it, but do you really think the political establishment in Detroit, Chicago, etc. are going to let that happen.Bloke wrote:SpinnerMan wrote:I think it is invest in education without any motivation other than education.
I agree 100%, however they currently have the same opportunity as everyone else if not more. You cannot make them take advantage of their educational opportunities. So why is it that they continue down the same path as their parents? Why is it that Caucasian and Asians graduate at significantly higher rates?
I see the same thing happening where I come from and it's white and semi-rural. That is what the it's hopeless, don't grow up and be self-sufficient, poor education, etc. leads to regardless of the skin color. And clearly it can change because it did change. This was not always the culture. This has been created in the last few generations.Bloke wrote:I contend it is the culture. It is the not having a role model, a father to kick you in the butt, a stable 2 parent household. It is the hip hop, kill da ni**a gangster rap worshipping. It is the gangs instead of families. That is their culture, it is their choice to live that way. You cannot change that.
Or you are taught that it is pointless, you can't do it.Bloke wrote:your education is free so why would you not take full advantage of it unless they are being taught that maybe it isn't so bad to sit home and stick it to the man.
And financially punishes anyone that tries to work their way up from the bottom.Bloke wrote:Instead of empowering those in need, we have a system that rewards with no limits or strings attached.
gunnydman wrote:Why cant whites celebrate our culture and gifts to mankind?
Why cant Germany be proud that its people invented Beer, The Car, Submarine, Flight, Gas, Diesel, Flight, The Rocket, X Ray, Computer, MP3, Mauser Design, AK 47 Design STG, Most of the worlds finest dogs? et al
This is a nation the size of Arizona.