SpinnerMan wrote: If it is so great, why are so many successful people leaving....
They're all going to Chicago.
No, they are leaving there too for the same reason
Glimmerjim wrote: SpinnerMan wrote:
and so many 3rd world illegals moving in?
It's huge in agriculture and service. Jobs that do not pay enough to attract those that earn wages high enough to support themselves well here. Plus, you might take a look at a map. See the line between CA and Mexico? That is what we call a border. In other words, we are very close to where some "3rd world illegals" are from. Texas and AZ has them too, but what self-respecting Mexican wants to live in Texas or AZ?
So you are saying that Californians in general want the border enforced effectively, but wouldn't that kill all those greedy California businessmen that are unwilling to pay a living wage to Americans so they disregard the law and engaged in organized criminal activity? It is exactly this type of schizophrenia that makes California a laughing stock.
BTW, Arizona has a little different view of the foreign nationals entering and living illegally within their borders than California
This is an interesting site.http://www.census.gov/hhes/migration/data/acs/state-to-state.html
A lot more people moving from California to Texas and Arizona than the other way around?
Overall, an estimated 567,000 left California for other states and 494,000 moved into it from other states in just 2012.
Illinois lost about the same amount of people as California despite being much smaller
More people moved from Illinois to California. We are definitely worse, but we are flyover country so nobody cares.
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