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Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:33 am

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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby assateague » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:37 am

This won't play out well.
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:38 am

assateague wrote:This won't play out well.

In Angola? Or on this forum?
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby ohio mike » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:42 am

Uh oh Slow's gonna go ballistic! :lol3:
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby assateague » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:25 am

Indaswamp wrote:
assateague wrote:This won't play out well.

In Angola? Or on this forum?


:lol:

In Angola was my intent, but you may be right.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby Andy W » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:07 am

This is the final end of Islamic influence in our country

They might be on to something.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby ScaupHunter » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:35 am

That is not a solution. It just goes underground and foments what they are trying to avoid. You have to also deport or kill every Muslim in the nation. Then invest the effort to keep the rest out. Islam behaves just like a cancer. You can slow it. It is never really cured.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:00 pm

Funny how "conservative patriot constitutionalists" scoff at the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state -- the sole reason pilgrims came to this new land, and the very first amendment to the constitution and Bill of Rights -- if it is a religion they don't ascribe to. Funny, especially considering that extremist Christians perpetrate more acts of terrorism on US soil than any other religion.
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Postby clampdaddy » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:04 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:That is not a solution. It just goes underground and foments what they are trying to avoid. You have to also have to deport or kill every Muslim in the nation. Then invest the effort to keep the rest out. Islam behaves just like a cancer. You can slow it. It is never really cured.

It wouldn't surprise me to see something like that happen there. The father of one of my childhood friends was a Portuguese soldier during the Angolan wars and (aside from the complexion of the corpses) some of the old 8mm camera pictures he had looked an awful lot like they could've come from a German concentration camp. Really bad stuff.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:24 pm

whistlingwings wrote:Funny how "conservative patriot constitutionalists" scoff at the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state -- the sole reason pilgrims came to this new land, and the very first amendment to the constitution and Bill of Rights -- if it is a religion they don't ascribe to. Funny, especially considering that extremist Christians perpetrate more acts of terrorism on US soil than any other religion.

You are clueless of the battles our founding fathers had with muslims aren't you. It is the reason why we have a Navy.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:48 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
whistlingwings wrote:Funny how "conservative patriot constitutionalists" scoff at the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state -- the sole reason pilgrims came to this new land, and the very first amendment to the constitution and Bill of Rights -- if it is a religion they don't ascribe to. Funny, especially considering that extremist Christians perpetrate more acts of terrorism on US soil than any other religion.

You are clueless of the battles our founding fathers had with muslims aren't you. It is the reason why we have a Navy.


:lol: please, oh wise one, explain how the found of the US Navy traces its roots to fighting...Muslims...in the Revolutionary War. 18th Century British Muslims? :lol3:

After you're done with that crazy rant redefining American history, explain to us why you think anyone in the Navy, Army -- anyone in the US military -- is fighting for American Christians but not American Muslims. 99% of American servicemen and women think your "anti-Islam, kick them out of the country" hate spewing is disgusting and would much rather kick you out of the country.

This country was founded on freedom of religion, genius, and yes that includes religions other than your own.
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:52 pm

whistlingwings wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:
whistlingwings wrote:Funny how "conservative patriot constitutionalists" scoff at the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state -- the sole reason pilgrims came to this new land, and the very first amendment to the constitution and Bill of Rights -- if it is a religion they don't ascribe to. Funny, especially considering that extremist Christians perpetrate more acts of terrorism on US soil than any other religion.

You are clueless of the battles our founding fathers had with muslims aren't you. It is the reason why we have a Navy.


:lol: please, oh wise one, explain how the found of the US Navy traces its roots to fighting...Muslims...in the Revolutionary War. 18th Century British Muslims? :lol3:

After you're done with that crazy rant redefining American history, explain to us why you think anyone in the Navy, Army -- anyone in the US military -- is fighting for American Christians but not American Muslims. 99% of American servicemen and women think your "anti-Islam, kick them out of the country" hate spewing is disgusting and would much rather kick you out of the country.

This country was founded on freedom of religion, genius, and yes that includes religions other than your own.

It is in the congressional record. We've discussed it before. Use the search function.
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:54 pm

but if you really can't figure out how to use the search function on DHC, google 'Treaty of Tripoli' and you can read all about it.
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:55 pm

:lol: hear that, Navy veterans? The Navy was founded to fight Muslims, not the British. :lol:
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:57 pm

:lol: And hear that, veterans? You fought for American Christians, not American Muslims. :lol:
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:00 pm

whistlingwings wrote::lol: And hear that, veterans? You fought for American Christians, not American Muslims. :lol:

Yep. it was created to fight and fend off the State sponsored barbarous muslim pirates on trade routes.
Your post makes me wonder what brand of rewritten liberal history you were brainwashed with.
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:10 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
whistlingwings wrote::lol: And hear that, veterans? You fought for American Christians, not American Muslims. :lol:

Yep. it was created to fight and fend off the State sponsored barbarous muslim pirates on trade routes.
Your post makes me wonder what brand of rewritten liberal history you were brainwashed with.


You really are insane. George Washington commissioned the first navy to fight the British, in 1775. Next were the French in the Quasi-War, 1798. After that, the First Barbary war in 1801. So we fought Muslims 3rd, not first, genius.

You're welcome for the history lesson.

But again, 99% of servicemen and women are not fighting for American Christians, they are fighting for Americans, regardless of religion. Take your hate and move to Angola.
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:11 pm

Hell, it's even in the Battle Hymn of the US Marines!

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.


Golly gee Wolly, why did they put that in there? :huh:

research the First Barbary War 1801-1805.... :hi:
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:14 pm

Golly gee, read my post before writing another one. 1801 is *after* 1798 and 1775. Counting must not be your strong suit.

You could just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... tates_Navy

1.) British, Revolutionary War, 1775
2.) Naval Act of 1794 (this actually created the Navy...)
3.) French, Quasi-War, 1798
4.) Barbary States, First Barbary War, 1801 (see :rolleyes: I researched 1801)
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:16 pm

Now that you've been proven wrong, I wonder, how will you react? Again, I'm more than certain I'm speaking on behalf of most servicemen and women when I say: take your religious-based hate to Angola. This country was founded on freedom of religion.
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:18 pm

whistlingwings wrote:
Indaswamp wrote:
whistlingwings wrote::lol: And hear that, veterans? You fought for American Christians, not American Muslims. :lol:

Yep. it was created to fight and fend off the State sponsored barbarous muslim pirates on trade routes.
Your post makes me wonder what brand of rewritten liberal history you were brainwashed with.


You really are insane. George Washington commissioned the first navy to fight the British, in 1775. Next were the French in the Quasi-War, 1798. After that, the First Barbary war in 1801. So we fought Muslims 3rd, not first, genius.

You're welcome for the history lesson.

But again, 99% of servicemen and women are not fighting for American Christians, they are fighting for Americans, regardless of religion. Take your hate and move to Angola.

On Friday, October 13, 1775, meeting in Philadelphia, the Continental Congress voted to fit out two sailing vessels, armed with ten carriage guns, as well as swivel guns, and manned by crews of eighty, and to send them out on a cruise of three months to intercept transports carrying munitions and stores to the British army in America. This was the original legislation out of which the Continental Navy grew and as such constitutes the birth certificate of the navy.


this was prior to the signing of the declaration of independence and there was much resistance to the formation of a standing Navy. It was not until the First Barbary war that Thomas Jefferson established a standing navy in the US.
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Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:20 pm

:lol: so...you're saying the Naval Act of 1794 did not create...the Navy?

:lol3:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Act_of_1794
"The Act to Provide a Naval Armament, also known as the Naval Act of 1794, or simply, the Naval Act, was passed by the United States Congress on March 27, 1794 and established the first naval force of the United States of America, which eventually became the present-day United States Navy."

Good luck explaining that to someone in the Navy. "The Navy was created in 1801, not 1794!" :lol3:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:27 pm

whistlingwings wrote:Funny how "conservative patriot constitutionalists" scoff at the idea of freedom of religion and separation of church and state --
Separation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution, so that one is easy.


whistlingwings wrote:the sole reason pilgrims came to this new land, and the very first amendment to the constitution and Bill of Rights
And the reason the Constitution bans the federal government and not the state governments.

Constitution of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (1780)
It is the right as well as the duty of all men in society, publicly, and at stated seasons to worship the Supreme Being, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty, or estate, for worshipping God in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; or for his religious profession or sentiments; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or obstruct others in their religious worship.


Therefore, to promote their happiness and to secure the good order and preservation of their government, the people of this commonwealth have a right to invest their legislature with power to authorize and require, and the legislature shall, from time to time, authorize and require, the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public worship of God, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily.


The governor shall be chosen annually; and no person shall be eligible to this office, unless at the time of his election, he shall have been an inhabitant of this commonwealth for seven years next preceding; and unless he shall at the same time, be seised in his own right, of a freehold within the commonwealth of the value of one thousand pounds; and unless he shall declare himself to be of the Christian religion.


Any person chosen governor, lieutenant governor, councillor, senator or representative, and accepting the trust, shall before he proceed to execute the duties of his place or office, make and subscribe the following declaration, viz.--
"I, A. B., do declare, that I believe the Christian religion


Do you think the State of Massachusetts voted to make large parts of their Constitution null and void? :huh:

whistlingwings wrote:Funny, especially considering that extremist Christians perpetrate more acts of terrorism on US soil than any other religion.
Per capita? This is just flat out silly. You quote "acts" and not body count and given that the Christians outnumber Muslims by wide margins, this is not informative at all. If there were no Muslims, then the ratio would be infinite would it not? Would that support your point? :no:

However, what do the vast majority of Christians wish to do with all terrorist whether Timothy McVeigh or the Boston Marathon Bombers? :huh:

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports/
For some perspective, according to this study there are 130 times as many Christians as Muslims. So what ratio of Christian to Muslim terrorism are you claiming? What would it look like if it were a 50/50 country? :huh:
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Re: Angola 'Bans Islam', Dismantles Mosques

Postby whistlingwings » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:28 pm

I'm sure wikipedia isn't a valid source for you though.

The Navy Department Library:
http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/index.html#anchor1450

Listed in chronological order, by the Navy Department Library:
Revolutionary War 1775-1783
Quasi-War with France 1798-1801
Barbary Wars 1801-1805, 1815

:fingerhead: but I'm sure the Navy is politically motivated to say that their organization was NOT created to fight Muslims, right?
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Postby Indaswamp » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:30 pm

U.S. merchant ships were afforded protection by the crown until the signing of the declaration of independence. At that point, the crown withdrew the protection and merchant ships were meticulously attacked be muslim Barbarous Pirates. Piracy was the reason for the creation of the Navy.
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