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Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby Rat Creek » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:16 am

Is there a point when the Useful Idiots actually realize they have been played for fools? :huh:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/politics/reid-obamacare-staff/index.html

In September, Reid told reporters, "Let's stop these really juvenile political games -- the one dealing with health care for senators and House members and our staff. We are going to be part of exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that."


That was then. This is now.

Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, one of Obamacare's architects and staunchest supporters, is also the only top congressional leader to exempt some of his staff from having to buy insurance through the law's new exchanges.


I guess it would just be cruel to expect one of the Leaders of the Idiots or his staff to participate in the horrendous law shoved down our throats. But Harry still has a D after his name, so the Useful Idiots will defend it or try some stupid diversion about Bush and WMDs. :mad:

But, but, but, Its the law of the land !!! :crying: :crying: :crying:

Except when corrupt frauds say it is not. :mad:
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Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:43 am

I am very interested in how the religious aspect plays out in the courts. You can't exempt Muslims and then tell other conservative religions they have to participate. Most of them are totally against gambling. The religious aspect may well dismantle the law as Unconsitutional.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:58 am

ScaupHunter wrote:You can't exempt Muslims and then tell other conservative religions they have to participate.
Of course you can. We live in a totally lawless nation. Authoritarian edicts whether from Obama or Reid trump the law. They can just make it up as they go and sidestep all that hassle of changing the law process we all learned as a kid and use the process that all the kids living under authoritarian governments learned.

The Supreme Court will worry about the politics. My guess is that they will punt and punt and punt on this. Roberts' convoluted logic to find the answer he wanted and not what the straightforward interpretation of the law demanded can't be twisted enough to convince himself that he has found the solution he desires which is to exempt Muslims and screw everybody else because that avoid the elites from calling him bad names.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/2/supreme-court-rejects-liberty-university-appeal/
But Liberty University had launched a separate appeal, asking for legal clarification on the mandate that employers had to provide insurance to workers, or pay a fine. The Fourth U.S. Circuit of Appeals in Richmond, Va., had already turned down Liberty’s claims — and that decision now stands, given the high court’s refusal to take up the case, The Associated Press reported.


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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:58 am

The time continually draws closer. My prediction. Chaos.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby assateague » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:29 pm

Yep.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:46 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:The time continually draws closer. My prediction. Chaos.

No, most authoritarian nations are not in chaos. They are quite ordered in fact.

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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:33 pm

The chaos came as they transitioned to authoritarian nations spinner. You know enough history to know that chaos comes before subjugation in a totalitarian regime. You can't tell me you believe all 90 million gun owners are just going to quietly walk into those lines.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:38 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:The time continually draws closer. My prediction. Chaos.

#cantwait
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:51 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:The chaos came as they transitioned to authoritarian nations spinner. You know enough history to know that chaos comes before subjugation in a totalitarian regime. You can't tell me you believe all 90 million gun owners are just going to quietly walk into those lines.

Are you sure we aren't in the after phase already?

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Those other countries turned the heat up too quickly.

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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:52 pm

When the deadbeats realize their gravy train is cut off by all the folks that used to work standing in line in front of them it will happen. I have said it a thousand times. The welfare slugs will be what triggers the chaos. Cut their self entitled mental state behinds off the gravy train and they will be out trying to make people give them things by force. We can thank our liberal brothers for entire generations and an ever increasing number of welfare slugs when it happens.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:53 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:
ScaupHunter wrote:The chaos came as they transitioned to authoritarian nations spinner. You know enough history to know that chaos comes before subjugation in a totalitarian regime. You can't tell me you believe all 90 million gun owners are just going to quietly walk into those lines.

Are you sure we aren't in the after phase already?

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Yes and no Spinner. When the money runs out because no on will loan us any and the checks stop rolling in for the welfare slugs is when it will happen. We are way past the point of no return economically, we just haven't had the full reality check come to bear yet.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:31 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:When the money runs out because no on will loan us any and the checks stop rolling in for the welfare slugs is when it will happen.
The printing presses will keep on rolling. There are no cliffs, just a slow steady heat until we are all cooked.

ScaupHunter wrote:We are way past the point of no return economically, we just haven't had the full reality check come to bear yet.
I don't believe we are beyond the point of economic return. I do however believe we are beyond the point of social return. Our society has been so thoroughly corrupted that the complete lawlessness with Obama just changing the law via edict, everybody just disregarding laws they don't like, blanket refusal to enforce laws if the person "in charge" doesn't like them, etc.

If Richard Nixon were President today, would he even been impeached for what he did? I really doubt it. It would just be seen as another political fight with nothing more at stake than who won the Auburn Alabama game.

Economically, we can easily turn it around, but there is zero chance of us doing that, not because it would be outrageously painful in the short term, as the shutdown showed, nobody even noticed, but because we are such a corrupt society. The entire country has moved to the Chicago model and in that model, the most corrupt wins, and if you aren't bending the rules, you are just a sucker.

Look at all the tax cheats, are they viewed as thieves or people going 60 in a 55?
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby charlie beard » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:41 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:When the deadbeats realize their gravy train is cut off by all the folks that used to work standing in line in front of them it will happen. I have said it a thousand times. The welfare slugs will be what triggers the chaos. Cut their self entitled mental state behinds off the gravy train and they will be out trying to make people give them things by force. We can thank our liberal brothers for entire generations and an ever increasing number of welfare slugs when it happens.


I have said we are going to have a depression for 30 years.
Chaos no way the government will cut the power grid.
No cell phones, TV, gas, food will spoil, this is how ruthless they will be.
The only hope will be our military to turn on the Government.
The UN will kook the other way.
It's not going to be pretty.

As you have seen this administration could give a rats *** less about the American people.

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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:43 pm

I would love to find the politician with the cahones to actually turn off the power. They can only push so far and the revolt begins. When they decide to make it tough to live, their beloved supporters will be the first to turn on them.

I for one would pay good money to see these idiots try something that drastic. The end results would, while vicious overall be exactly what this country needs to learn a hard lesson about who we pick as leaders.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:40 am

ScaupHunter wrote:I would love to find the politician with the cahones to actually turn off the power. They can only push so far and the revolt begins. When they decide to make it tough to live, their beloved supporters will be the first to turn on them viciously.

I for one would pay good money to see these idiots try something that drastic. The end results would, while vicious overall be exactly what this country needs to learn a hard lesson about who we pick as leaders.

Slow steady heat. Slow and steady.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/venezuelan-president-maduro-sabotage-to-blame-for-widespread-power-outages-1.1438846
Venezuela's main power distribution network failed Tuesday, depriving 70 per cent of the country of electricity and creating traffic chaos in much of Caracas, which normally escapes such outages.
Electrical Energy Minister Jesse Chacon said on state TV that the failure was in the "backbone" that carries electricity from the Bajo Caroni region, where 60 per cent of Venezuela's power is generated.
President Nicolas Maduro said Tuesday night that 14 of 23 states lost power for much of the day and blamed "sabotage,"

The Dear Leader said sabotage, so :bow: :bow: :bow:

BTW, it wasn't sabotage, it was Obamanomic or Detroitonomics or whatever you want to call the anti-ecomonic science of the leftist fantasy world that thinks they can fundamentally change society even though they have never run a small business with 2 employees, let alone the insanely complex economy of over 310,000,000 that is intimately tied to the economy of roughly 6,900,000,000 other people doing and trading things that you have exactly zero relevant experience with.

The Venezeluans were going to fix their sub-par economy just like Obama is fixing our sub-par health care system and the results are the same, but neither will stop and cling desperately to their insane ideas as they force the people to pay for their fantasy through ever lower quality of services when they are actually available.

Think how many people are claiming that the Republicans sabotaged Obama's grand vision of health care. Right out of the playbook.

Slow steady heat until we are all cooked.

Large numbers are already dead in Detroit, Chicago, and how many will die that lose their health care, how many will die because they can't get a job, how many will die because they get cut to part time to avoid the Obamacare penalties, ...
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby Andy W » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:54 am

Rat Creek wrote:Is there a point when the Useful Idiots actually realize they have been played for fools? :huh:

You would think that even the lowest of the low information crowd would eventually wake up, but don't hold your breath.


SpinnerMan wrote:If Richard Nixon were President today, would he even been impeached for what he did?


Yes because he had an R beside his name. Different rules apply.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:13 am

Andy W wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:If Richard Nixon were President today, would he even been impeached for what he did?


Yes because he had an R beside his name. Different rules apply.

OK, if the D's are in charge, yes he probably gets impeached. Their base is a lost cause. The reason he was forced to resign was because the base of the R's had not yet been corrupted to the point where it could be ignored or brushed under the rug.

With the current makeup of the establishment and the "moderates" and just ignorant, would a majority Republican House actually impeach him? Would a majority Republican Senate get to the votes needed to convict and remove him? Granted they wouldn't party on the steps of Congress because they kept a criminal in office like the Democrats did with Clinton, but I'm not convinced that there would be enough general outrage in society that the pressure would mount on the politicians to force him out or do what it takes to remove him. Look at the total disregard for what the actually law is when it comes to Obamacare and nobody cares that they are making it up as they go along just like third world tinhorn governments do.

The Tea Party types would call for his ouster and the Keating Five type McCains would attack them.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby Andy W » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:17 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:Granted they wouldn't party on the steps of Congress because they kept a criminal in office like the Democrats did with Clinton, but I'm not convinced that there would be enough general outrage in society that the pressure would mount on the politicians to force him out or do what it takes to remove him.

Are you forgetting how much control the MSM has over most people? They could convince many that he is in fact the antichrist. Much the same way they give barry a free pass on everything he has screwed up. If the American people knew the truth about liberalism, I believe both parties would shift toward the right.
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Re: Reid exempts his staff from The Law of the Land

Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:43 pm

Andy W wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:Granted they wouldn't party on the steps of Congress because they kept a criminal in office like the Democrats did with Clinton, but I'm not convinced that there would be enough general outrage in society that the pressure would mount on the politicians to force him out or do what it takes to remove him.

Are you forgetting how much control the MSM has over most people? They could convince many that he is in fact the antichrist. Much the same way they give barry a free pass on everything he has screwed up. If the American people knew the truth about liberalism, I believe both parties would shift toward the right.

The MSM tries to convince the public that every conservative is the antichrist. It does not work. All the faux conservatives and many of those unprepared for politics, sure, but they only can move the needle so far. The problem is with the politicians themselves more than the MSM portrayal of them.

If they had that much control, this is the group that would be most impacted and it's not going well for the Incompetent One :bow: :bow: :bow:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/millennials-obama-poll_n_4385174.html

In the Harvard survey, however, only 41 percent of millennials approved of Obama's job performance, while 54 percent disapproved -- numbers that are nearly identical to the president's support among Americans of all ages.


http://iop.harvard.edu/blog/iop-releases-new-fall-poll-5-key-findings-and-trends-millennial-viewpoints
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