ScaupHunter wrote:No one here takes him seriously for a lot of reasons.
Aw c'mon, Scaup. Lay off a bit. dude is a decent guy whether you agree with him or not. And I've never heard him get personal about anyone.
I agree he is a decent guy. A lot of well intended people say and do really dumb things.
Everything he said, which may
be true, we know to be true about the Clintons, we know to be true about the Obamas, we suspect it to be true of most career politicians, particularly machine candidates, yet he only sees that as a negative for people he views negatively and pointless for people he supports.http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=49438&p=370585
The Dude wrote:I think you give Bush1 undue credit for whatever you imagine he might have done had he had a second term. He's the guy who said, I have an economic plan and I'll reveal it after the election... and, read my lips, no new taxes. he lost his credibility too.
He will never say Obama lost credibility because of his many outright lies. Bush was a fool for this and the Dems were going to force him to break his promise just so people like The Dude can rip him for it. Nobody forced Obama to lie about his health care plan, it was not part of a negotiation with Republicans where he sincerely tried to keep his promise, it was just a premediated lie to deceive the people, so he could say, sorry you are
, and what difference does it make at this point
I've been debating The Dude for many years. While I like him personally and I think we would get along well hunting, fishing, etc., he does not hold those he likes to any standards comparable to those that he dislikes. However, consistency and objectivity is simply not something people on the left put any serious weight on. If they don't like the outcome, it by definition is not fair and fair is their excuse for ever shifting standards by which things are judged and given that it is a self-centered definition of fairness, as soon as their perspective changes, the standards change like flipping a switch. That's why with a totally straight face Bush lied and people died is a sincere position and then when Obama lies and people die, they are just as sincere that it does not matter.
A politician thinks of the next election; a statesman of the next generation. A politician looks for the success of his party; a statesman for that of the country. The statesman wished to steer, while the politician was satisfied to drift.