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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby vincentpa » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:25 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:I'm sure you have heard of these studies.

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Wujec says that very young kids usually build taller and more interesting structures than most adults, because they build a lot of prototypes in the 18 minutes each group is allotted, while adults spend a lot of time planning, then have no time to correct their mistakes.






That's just fuggin stupid and completely irrelevant. Should we have children make decisions for us then?
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby vincentpa » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:28 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:
ScaupHunter wrote:She should still be in jail for Whitewater Gate.
She's not a crook. She was and is just totally clueless of everything. That is, was, and always will be her story and she will never stop sticking to it.

Just what we need in a President. Someone that is always left in the dark whenever anything important is happening.



Hillary Clinton is not clueless. She was never disengaged. She was never not in control. And, She is not stupid. This post was just foolish.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby boney fingers » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:40 pm

vincentpa wrote:Response is not the issue. I doubt any response could've been effective. The military isn't going to send in troops without knowing the situation on the ground only to have them wiped out because the military didn't know the size if the enemy and their positions. Our military is great but this isn't a Hollywood movie. The scandal is the cover up. The secondary scandal is the failure to recognize the threat, which goes straight to liberal foolishness.



Not sure why you would have a cover up if no major mistakes were made in the first place. If I remember right, the Prez was out campaigning hard the next day all while the "movie" lie was being spread (I think he even apologized for our 1st amendment in a speech overseas and we even ran commercials overseas apologizing for it). If there were a good reason for what happened, why did Hillary give her famous "what does it matter now" defense. It seems like an elaborate cover up if no negligence took place.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby SpinnerMan » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:53 pm

vincentpa wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
ScaupHunter wrote:She should still be in jail for Whitewater Gate.
She's not a crook. She was and is just totally clueless of everything. That is, was, and always will be her story and she will never stop sticking to it.

Just what we need in a President. Someone that is always left in the dark whenever anything important is happening.



Hillary Clinton is not clueless. She was never disengaged. She was never not in control. And, She is not stupid. This post was just foolish.

I know. SHE IS A LIAR AND A CROOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Image

She just claims to be clueless, all the time. That was so obvious that a sarcmark didn't seem to be required.

Are you old enough to remember the Clinton presidency? She was clueless about everything, over and over and over again. Nobody believed her then, they don't believe her now, and they won't believe her in the future. However, her supporters will defend the lie that she is oblivious to the world around her while simultaneously claiming she is brilliant. It doesn't make any sense, but when do the people on the left say or do anything that makes any sense. They will be more than happy with the explanation that she is not a crook, just clueless, as if that is an acceptable quality in a President.

This is the kind of idiot they are happy with as President.

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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby ScaupHunter » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:49 pm

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ScaupHunter wrote:Really,

So exactly when did the Mediteranean and African theater commanders dismantle the Ranger group that was the quick reaction force there? And... How do you know it no longer exists?

Careful now, my brother in law that served in that unit for 5 years is presently working as a DOD contractor supporting it. Sucks living in Italy and all that. He gloats about it all the time.


Since. Have been in (11 years) there has never been any "ranger" unit there. Besides, there are no ranger "brigades", only ranger regiment. Perhaps you are confusing ranger school with the actual ranger regiment? Just cause you pass ranger school does not make you a ranger anymore than passing sniper school makes you a sniper. Ranger regiment has a selection process, and guys in regiment need ranger school, but people from big mother army that pass ranger school are NOT rangers.

The 173rd is in italy.

Careful now, everyone hates the infantry and barely anyone goes to any SOF selections, but everyone tries to pass themselves off as a pipe hitter.


Thanks for the clarification on the Regiment. I never went Ranger, though I passed Sapper School. Not having been in a Ranger Battalion I never learned you unit breaks downs, etc....
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby cartervj » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:20 pm

With todays email release it appears the facts are much clearer. The Obama admin changed the story to fit their agenda about a video to save face before the election.
It also appears a huge pay day in arms for terrorist also has been happening.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby cartervj » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:42 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/29/Emails-Point-to-Ben-Rhodes-as-Key-to-Benghazi-Talking-Points


A year ago, Ed Lasky of the American Thinker speculated that White House security official Ben Rhodes – a speechwriter with no prior national security experience or expertise – was at the heart of the Benghazi scandal, specifically the false talking points spouted on Sunday news shows by former UN Ambassador (now National Security Advisor) Susan Rice that the Sep. 11, 2012 attack was a protest against a YouTube video.

Now, those speculations seem to have been confirmed by the release of a batch of emails obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. Lasky quotes the emails, which pinpoint Rhodes as conducting a "prep" session for Rice on the Friday night before her Sunday morning media tour, with the goal “To underscore that these protests are rooted in [an] Internet video, and not a broader failure [of] policy.”

In 2013, Lasky reminded readers that Politico's Carol Lee had once described Rhodes as "one of the obscure guys who wrote Obama's campaign speeches in Starbucks and played video games into the early morning hours." After his mysterious elevation within the administration, "Now he attends national security meetings and takes writer's refuge in a secret office on the third floor of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building."

Today, Lasky notes that Rhodes's brother heads CBS News, which recently lost reporter Sharyl Attkisson – at least partly, she alleges, because the network did not like her reporting on Benghazi and other Obama administration scandals, including Operation Fast & Furious. Rhodes, Lasky says, "will do his boss’s bidding, hiding information, manipulating the facts, distract people: the truth and the American people be damned."
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby ScaupHunter » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:04 am

"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to decieve." The web is unraveling. If mid term elections do not go well for the D's we are quite likely going to have our second "Nixon". I for one hope he gives us the I am not a crook line with fingers raised for victory. Or perhaps a W shape for WINNING!
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:40 am

ScaupHunter wrote:The web is unraveling.
No it is not. Embedded in this assumption is that people like Dude and Jim actually care that Obama was lying so he could manipulate the outcome of the election. They do not. They will rationalize it away. It's bad, blah, blah, blah, but nothing meaningful changes. Sure they will call the President a few bad names if they must to get through the day, but they will backpedal as soon as they can because they must convince themselves that their guys are trustworthy because even they know it is insane to put people who are not trustworthy in control of their retirement, health care, national security, etc.

People died. Obama lied. So? Bush would have done the same. Ergo Obama gets a pass, now give him more power, because he is trustworthy and only lies when necessary to defeat the ignorant fools that want to destroy the socialist Utopian dreams of the modern day liberal. They do not care. Politics is war and you use whatever tactics are necessary to defeat the enemy and that biggest enemy is millions of Americans that want to live their life without having to answer to the politicians in Washington for nearly every aspect of their life.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby Rat Creek » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:56 am

SpinnerMan wrote:
ScaupHunter wrote:The web is unraveling.
No it is not. Embedded in this assumption is that people like Dude and Jim actually care that Obama was lying so he could manipulate the outcome of the election. They do not. They will rationalize it away. It's bad, blah, blah, blah, but nothing meaningful changes. Sure they will call the President a few bad names if they must to get through the day, but they will backpedal as soon as they can because they must convince themselves that their guys are trustworthy because even they know it is insane to put people who are not trustworthy in control of their retirement, health care, national security, etc.

People died. Obama lied. So? Bush would have done the same. Ergo Obama gets a pass, now give him more power, because he is trustworthy and only lies when necessary to defeat the ignorant fools that want to destroy the socialist Utopian dreams of the modern day liberal. They do not care. Politics is war and you use whatever tactics are necessary to defeat the enemy and that biggest enemy is millions of Americans that want to live their life without having to answer to the politicians in Washington for nearly every aspect of their life.


Sadly, I think you are both correct. The web is unraveling, but those on the left will (a) ignore it or rationalize it away, or worse, (b) they will marvel at the ability of their leader to lie, lie and lie some more to get what he wants. :mad:

We saw their reaction to Clinton lying under oath. This is the same thing, but just taken to a whole new low as people died to keep an election promise that Al Qaeda was on the run. This will impress the useful idiots, not outrage them. :no:
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby nitram » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:14 am

On Tuesday, as a result of a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, Obama White House staff released a briefing email, which exposes the conspiracy to alter the Benghazi talking points ahead of scheduled media appearances by Obama’s UN Ambassador Susan Rice, during which she asserted that “protests over an Internet video” resulted in the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and his security personnel – that it was not a highly organized act of Islamist terrorism.

On September 14, 2012, three days after the Benghazi attack (despite the fact that CIA operatives on the ground said the attack had nothing to do with an Internet video, a claim that was clear to all concerned), Ben Rhodes (who is the author of Obama’s opening apology tour speeches in Berlin and to the Muslim world in Cairo, also wrote Obama’s Afghanistan retreat speech and his acceptance speech for that utterly unearned Nobel Peace Prize) drafted and sent a key talking points memo on Benghazi to top White House officials including Press Secretary Jay Carney among several others.

That email was entitled “PREP CALL with Susan,” as in Susan Rice.

The memo noted the “Goal” was to “underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy,” and instructs the recipients to portray Obama as “steady and statesmanlike” and to “reinforce the President and Administration’s strength and steadiness in dealing with difficult challenges.”

Though she clearly knew this was not the truth, Rice repeated this assertion in five TV news interviews in one day: “What happened this week in Benghazi was a result, a direct result, of a heinous and offensive video….”

There are two key questions this White House fabrication raises.

First, who provided and signed off on Ben Rhodes' Benghazi talking point lies to protect Obama’s re-election campaign?

Second, who authorized the cover-up of Rhodes' cover-up by redacting the emails sent to congressional investigators in order to conceal the fact that the Benghazi lies originated in the White House?

In retrospect, for more context of the gravity of this cover-up, let’s review what has been said to advance the Obama administration cover-up.

Three days after the attack, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stood in front of the flag-draped caskets of four dead Americans and asserted, “We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that, because it is senseless and totally unacceptable.” Clinton shamelessly assured Charles Woods, the father of slain former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, “We will make sure the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”

Two weeks after the Benghazi attack, Obama himself told the UN General Assembly, “That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world.”

In November 2012, just before the election, and seven weeks after receiving Rhodes' talking points, Jay Carney declared, “It has been repeatedly said by some of the critics on this issue that the White House provided talking points and that has been categorically refuted not just by us but by the intelligence community and yet it is still periodically said on the air, um, and it’s just wrong. The White House involvement and any changes made to the so-called talking points was extremely minimal and non-substantive.”

Carney also insisted, “The unrest around the region has been in response to this video. We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent.”

In January 2013, responding to Senate Foreign Relations Committee questions about the altered talking points, Clinton rebutted in anger, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

The difference, of course, is that we know she and Obama were lying.

In May 2013, Obama said, “The whole issue of this, uh, of talking points frankly throughout this process has been a sideshow.”

That month, Carney insisted again, “The only edits made here at the White House were stylistic and non-substantive. They corrected the description of the building, or the facility in Benghazi, from consulate to diplomatic facility and the like.”

Hillary Clinton’s replacement as Secretary of State, John Kerry, who as you recall launched Obama into the national limelight by featuring him as the keynote speaker at the 2004 Democrat Convention, lamented, “I hate to see it turned into a pure, prolonged, political process that really doesn’t tell us anything new about the facts.”

Clearly it is Obama who fabricated this lie and turned it “into a pure, prolonged, political process.”

As late as February of this year, Susan Rice insisted, “that information, uh, turned out in some respects not to be 100% correct, but the notion that somehow I, or anyone else in the administration, misled the American people, is patently false and I think that’s been amply demonstrated.”

Clearly it was not “100% correct” but, rather, 100% fabricated.


Let me now pose a third question about this White House fabrication: Does anyone believe that Barack Obama was not fully aware of the first cover-up, and then the cover-up of that cover-up?

Obama mastered the “Art of the BIG Lie” long before he had presidential aspirations, but the Benghazi cover-up, and the subsequent cover-up of that cover-up, is a terrible affront to the memory of four dead Americans and a grievous insult to their friends and families.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes, “Now we know the Obama White House’s chief concern about the Benghazi attack was making sure that President Obama looked good.”

According to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Rhodes' email is “a smoking gun proving beyond any doubt that the story told by the administration about Benghazi was politically motivated and fabricated.” That assessment is now echoed by other Republicans.

So, is there enough journalistic integrity remaining in the Leftmedia to call Obama out on this conspiracy and follow the chain of command to the top? Probably not. The media have substituted style for substance, and most of their consumers have swallowed the bait.

For the record, in 1972, Richard Nixon did not have knowledge of the politically-motivated Watergate break-in, but it was his hand in the cover-up of the involvement of White House aides in that break-in which led to his resignation in 1974, saving the nation from an impeachment trial. Investigative journalists with The Washington Post played a key role in uncovering that cover-up. Where are they today?

The Washington Post, in a profile on Ben Rhodes, described him as a “straight shooter.” In that profile, Rhodes told the Post, “I very much wanted to be a fiction writer.” Apparently, he became just that.

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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby cartervj » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:24 pm

Rat Creek wrote:The web is unraveling, but those on the left will (a) ignore it or rationalize it away, or worse, (b) they will marvel at the ability of their leader to lie, lie and lie some more to get what he wants. :mad:

We saw their reaction to Clinton lying under oath. This is the same thing, but just taken to a whole new low as people died to keep an election promise that Al Qaeda was on the run. This will impress the useful idiots, not outrage them. :no:


they just change the narration, Clinton lying didn't matter, the topic was changed to it's a private matter between him and Hillary
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby cartervj » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:43 pm

Former CBS investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson told Glenn Beck Wednesday that people should be “standing up on buildings and screaming” about the government’s targeting of the press.



After she started aggressively pursuing the Fast and Furious and Benghazi scandals, it was revealed that both Attkisson’s work and personal computers were compromised. Though the Department of Justice didn’t admit responsibility, it was around the time the federal government was caught tracking and monitoring the emails of a number of other journalists, including James Rosen of Fox News.

“I had been warned for some time prior to the discovery of my computer intrusions that I was probably being monitored,” Attkisson told Beck. “I have very good sources in government corners. … This was way before the Snowden revelations and the Associated Press revelations, so it did sound a little funny at first. But once we were able to confirm some of what was happening, I — as I’ve said, I’m outraged.”

Attkisson said “people should be standing up on buildings and screaming about this,” and that it is unacceptable for the government to be “going after” sources and trying to “intimidate” journalists.


Glenn Beck speaks with former CBS investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson on his radio program April 30, 2014. (Photo: TheBlaze TV)
In addition to actively targeting reporters, Attkisson added, the government has begun to “flaunt” freedom of information laws. And many news organizations aren’t willing to file lawsuits to obtain the information, either because they aren’t convinced it’s a story, or because of an ideological bias.

Attkisson said sometimes managers are “so ideologically conflicted that they know there’s a story, but they really don’t want the story out there, even when it’s fairly reported.”


Speaking about Benghazi, the former CBS reporter said she was stunned by “the stonewalling of basic information that should be publicly available, such as the commander in chief’s actions on a night when, basically, people were at war with Americans.”

“We don’t even know what the commander chief did that night,” she remarked. “We’re not allowed to know, and I think that’s pretty shocking.”
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby Rat Creek » Thu May 01, 2014 3:08 pm

You would think there would be a tipping point on this stuff when Obama backers would finally turn on him, but liberals are liberals first and foremost. Nothing else really matters. :no:

So while many people are truly disgusted by the fact that four Americans were not just killed, but left to die by the administration rather than be rescued, that is okay with liberals because it was done by liberals. I work with some of these people and they can rationalize anything.

And then the administration created a completely fraudulent story to cover it up, sent Susan Rice out on five news shows to repeat the lie over and over, all for the purpose of protecting one of the campaign themes that Al Qaeda was on the run. That too is okay with liberals because it was done by liberals.

There will never be a tipping point for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Biden or anyone else, no matter what. It is all about being liberal and nothing else matters to liberals. Just remember, they are self-described intellectuals. :rolleyes: Wow, you talk about irony.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby nitram » Fri May 02, 2014 5:42 am

“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” that’s all the media wants to talk about, complained Nancy Pelosi when asked about the recently released emails, a.k.a. the smoking gun. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?” Because the terrorist attack at Benghazi and the subsequent White House cover-up is the biggest scandal of this administration, all to preserve a political narrative before the 2012 election. “If you all want to sit around and talk about Benghazi you can sit around and talk about Benghazi,” she added later. Of course, the Leftmedia aren’t spending much time on it, but any mention of the word is evidently enough to set off Pelosi’s nervous tick.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby ScaupHunter » Fri May 02, 2014 8:17 am

nitram wrote:“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” that’s all the media wants to talk about, complained Nancy Pelosi when asked about the recently released emails, a.k.a. the smoking gun. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?” Because the terrorist attack at Benghazi and the subsequent White House cover-up is the biggest scandal of this administration, all to preserve a political narrative before the 2012 election. “If you all want to sit around and talk about Benghazi you can sit around and talk about Benghazi,” she added later. Of course, the Leftmedia aren’t spending much time on it, but any mention of the word is evidently enough to set off Pelosi’s nervous tick.



What do you complain about in life? Normally the thing that worries you most. She knows if the lid blows off the scandal the mid term elections are going to be a bigger slaughter of her beloved socialist comrads in the House and Senate. Lie, divert, deny, obfuscate. "What does is matter now!" I am really looking foward to seeing how the American public responds to the idiots they hired. Are they going to continue to be sheeple, or are they going to pop their heads out and vote the bastardos out en mass? Either way it is going to be hilarious watching the D's jink and jive while getting fried. I am thoroughly enjoying watching the MSM self destruct as well. They simply don't get it. Their perfidy, lies, and deceipt are coming to roost. Give it another 10 years and they will about as popular as Congress.
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby possumfoot » Fri May 02, 2014 4:26 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:
nitram wrote:“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” that’s all the media wants to talk about, complained Nancy Pelosi when asked about the recently released emails, a.k.a. the smoking gun. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?” Because the terrorist attack at Benghazi and the subsequent White House cover-up is the biggest scandal of this administration, all to preserve a political narrative before the 2012 election. “If you all want to sit around and talk about Benghazi you can sit around and talk about Benghazi,” she added later. Of course, the Leftmedia aren’t spending much time on it, but any mention of the word is evidently enough to set off Pelosi’s nervous tick.



What do you complain about in life? Normally the thing that worries you most. She knows if the lid blows off the scandal the mid term elections are going to be a bigger slaughter of her beloved socialist comrads in the House and Senate. Lie, divert, deny, obfuscate. "What does is matter now!" I am really looking foward to seeing how the American public responds to the idiots they hired. Are they going to continue to be sheeple, or are they going to pop their heads out and vote the bastardos out en mass? Either way it is going to be hilarious watching the D's jink and jive while getting fried. I am thoroughly enjoying watching the MSM self destruct as well. They simply don't get it. Their perfidy, lies, and deceipt are coming to roost. Give it another 10 years and they will about as popular as Congress.



scaup, i think you give people too much credit.. the masses have proven they are not as smart as you think..
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri May 02, 2014 7:16 pm

possumfoot wrote:
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nitram wrote:“Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi,” that’s all the media wants to talk about, complained Nancy Pelosi when asked about the recently released emails, a.k.a. the smoking gun. “Why aren’t we talking about something else?” Because the terrorist attack at Benghazi and the subsequent White House cover-up is the biggest scandal of this administration, all to preserve a political narrative before the 2012 election. “If you all want to sit around and talk about Benghazi you can sit around and talk about Benghazi,” she added later. Of course, the Leftmedia aren’t spending much time on it, but any mention of the word is evidently enough to set off Pelosi’s nervous tick.



What do you complain about in life? Normally the thing that worries you most. She knows if the lid blows off the scandal the mid term elections are going to be a bigger slaughter of her beloved socialist comrads in the House and Senate. Lie, divert, deny, obfuscate. "What does is matter now!" I am really looking foward to seeing how the American public responds to the idiots they hired. Are they going to continue to be sheeple, or are they going to pop their heads out and vote the bastardos out en mass? Either way it is going to be hilarious watching the D's jink and jive while getting fried. I am thoroughly enjoying watching the MSM self destruct as well. They simply don't get it. Their perfidy, lies, and deceipt are coming to roost. Give it another 10 years and they will about as popular as Congress.



scaup, i think you give people too much credit.. the masses have proven they are not as smart as you think..

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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby Indaswamp » Fri May 02, 2014 11:05 pm

and crickets from the left leaning DHC members....
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby cartervj » Sat May 03, 2014 6:46 pm

if they say nothing then it goes away, at least that is the way the liberal media is working it

No one but Fox and those right wing radical constitutionalist or Teas Partiers portraying those conspiracies. :loll:

They forget the Dems led the partisan charge against Nixon. :lol3:
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Re: Benghazi story getting interesting

Postby SpinnerMan » Sun May 04, 2014 8:14 am

Indaswamp wrote:and crickets from the left leaning DHC members....

Dude, that was like two years ago. Who cares about something so insignificant that happened so long ago? People died. The Obama administration lied. Moveon.org
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Postby cartervj » Sun May 04, 2014 8:31 am

That dude evidently didn't realize or care how big an azz that comment was. To me it really showed the arrogance and lack of moral character this administration has for the common man, you know the ones they rely on for votes under the guise of caring. :fingerpt:

and of course at this point, what difference does it make?
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getting interesting indeed...
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed May 07, 2014 7:42 am

cartervj wrote:That dude evidently didn't realize or care how big an azz that comment was.
I think it is far worse than that. I think he is totally clueless of how big an ass that made him look. It didn't effect him personally, so he doesn't appreciate how significant an event for the nation it is for an enemy to target and assassinate an ambassador. They are completely pre 9/11/01 mentality. This was a mini Pearl Harbor, mini 9/11/01, it was an overt act of war, but they look at it as if it is just a random mass murder in Obamaville Chicago and need not be taken any more seriously, which is to dismiss and ignore as you seek your personal agenda of winning elections and accumulating the power, wealth, and adoration that comes with that.

The people that attacked the U.S. on 9/11/01 were hunted down the world over by the Bush administration and even Obama had to feign like he believed in that.

The people that attacked the U.S. on 9/11/12 were dismissed as just some guys out for a walk one night who decided to kill some random Americans, essentially a daily occurrence in Obamaville that nobody worries too much about unless they can make political hay.


The memorable line from Hillary's testimony is NOT the worst part of her testimony. Here's the full quote.

Clinton: Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?

Notice she didn't ask what difference does it make if it was an organized terrorist group that made a pre-planned raid to kill a U.S. ambassador who will likely carry out more such plans in the future. There is no evidence it was a protest that got out of control or just a whim mass murder, but an organized planned attack on the U.S. Just like 9/11/01, but on a much smaller scale as were all such acts prior to 9/11/01 that culminated in the mass murder on 9/11/01 when some guys out for a plane ride decided to kill some Americans.

They are still at war with us, but Clinton dismisses them as just some guys out for a walk that decided to kill some Americans as if they ran across them in the street and not a planned attack on a guarded compound.
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