go get the bird wrote: dudejcb wrote:
Bluesky2012 wrote:Also "dudejcb", before we discuss this too much, have you taken quality courses on physics, differential equations, and thermodynamics?
uhhh yeah. Linear algebra, fluid mechanic, fluid dynamics, (plain old) dynamics (the one that comes after statics) and all the other high powered science, math, and design classes it takes to attain an engineering degree.
I think they were quality courses, and Cal Poly is accredited, but I can check and find out.
So: are the ice caps and glaciers world wide melting or not? Why?
Ask bluesky. Apparently, he knows enough to discredit the experience and education of doctorate-holding scientists.
Exactly doctorate-holding scientists, especially those that work for the government, know everything and you should never doubt anything they say
huntmmup wrote:list scientists who are experts on climatology and who also disagree the global warming is occurring or is man made.
Now if you just mean that there is at least some small negligible warming, that is zero. If you mean people that think Al Gore and the other doomsdayers are smoking dope, here are just a couple to start. If you mean people that reject keeping everything secret and that there is group think, they exist too. You can do your own homework, but here is a couple. One that questions the science and one that calls for being a lot more open and that there are issues with the behavior of the scientists.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen
Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist, known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. From 1983, until he retired in 2013, he was Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He was a lead author of Chapter 7, 'Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks,' of the IPCC Third Assessment Report on climate change. He has criticized the scientific consensus about climate change and what he has called climate alarmism.
Judith A. Curry is an American climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Her research interests include hurricanes, remote sensing, atmospheric modeling, polar climates, air-sea interactions, and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles for atmospheric research. She is a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee.
Curry is the co-author of Thermodynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans (1999), and co-editor of Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences (2002), as well as over 140 scientific papers. Among her awards is the Henry G. Houghton Research Award from the American Meteorological Society in 1992.
While Judith Curry supports the scientific opinion on climate change, she has argued that climatologists should be more accommodating of those skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change. Curry has stated she is troubled by what she calls the "tribal nature" of parts of the climate-science community, and what she sees as stonewalling over the release of data and its analysis for independent review.
In February 2010 Curry published an essay called "On the Credibility of Climate Change, Towards Rebuilding Trust" on Watts Up With That? and other blogs. Writing in The New York Times, Andrew Revkin calls the essay a message to young scientists who may have been disheartened by the November 2009 climate change controversy known as "Climategate".
I'm all but certain I have met her. She joined Ga Tech the year I graduated for the last time.
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