TNAL45 wrote:I like my beer like I like my violence....Domestic.
jrockncash wrote:OOOHhh lets debate, can I be the mediator?
First question: Where is the Ark and how old is the Earth?
captainduckhead wrote:That's what I love about the God Squad, you guys are always quick to judge, and tell someone what God thinks. You again need to get your head out of the bible, and possibly your kiester. Are you saying gays are going to hell? You can honestly tell me that gay men and women are sinning? even if they truly care about their partners the way you care about you wife or girlfriend? That sir is no religeon I want to be a part of.
cannon wrote:Hmm. Interesting thought . . . What if you're wrong?
VGM Hunter, if you're wrong, you'll have spent your life missing out on the indulgences that are prohibited by the Bible you claim is the Word of God. When you die, you'll just be dead, and you'll have wasted your life trying to love your enemies and turn the other cheek. I suppose you'll look like a moron for having put all that effort into something that's a complete hoax.
Captainduckhead, if you're wrong, when you die, you'll be in Hell, which I suspect would be uncomfortable.
For the record, theology notwithstanding, followers of Christ don't believe that you'll go to hell because of what you do, whether it's homosexual or not. They believe that you'll go to hell because of who you are, which is sinful in its very nature. Genuine Christianity says that, absent your acceptance of the gift of a sacrifice sufficient to make up for that nature, there is no way to get to heaven. By the same token, that same discipline says that, once the sacrifice has been made and you've accepted it through faith, nothing you can do can change the fact that you'll gain heaven, even if you go homo, or murder, or are just slutty. Doctrine says that whether you're gay, straight, Christian, gnostic, atheist, drunk, sober, smart, stupid, or just goofy, you're a sinner, past, present and future. Pure Christianity says that being queer will never keep you out of heaven. Rejecting the sacrifice of the Christ, however, will do the trick.
Its Biblical teaching that says homosexuality is a sin, along with drunkenness, slothfulness, lying, divorce, fornication, over-eating, vulgar language, covetous thoughts, etc. (the list is pretty daunting). Orthodox "Christians" don't believe that you or any of one of them are capable of living a single day without sinning, and therefore, if genuine in their "faith", won't be accusing you or anyone else of anything, other than being a sinner by your very nature, just like they are.
Ironically, despite the fact that Christianity gets tagged as a judgmental "religion", its purest doctrine is exactly the opposite, and assumes us all to be worthless losers with no hope of recovery absent the grace of a perfect sacrifice on our behalf. A lot of people claiming to be "Christians" spend a lot of time telling a lot of people how to live. However, while genuine followers of Christ will be glad to share their faith, they'll also willingly acknowledge the fact that they have no right to point the finger at you about anything.
dudejcb wrote:VGM-Hunter wrote:The bible is Gods word............
God is not a writer or a publisher. Those are things men (and woment) do.
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