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well, looks like it's McCain versus Obama

Postby Montanafowler » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:23 pm

Obama won the Democratic nomination.












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Postby Preacher1011 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:26 pm

And don't know if y'all heard this either, but Hillary said she would accept Obama's nomination for VP if he offered it. And if he does, then I have a REALLY bad feeling on how this election will turn out for us. It's a cold day in hell for us right wingers :no:
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Postby Montanafowler » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:29 pm

we may be screwed.




Ok, in light of this situation, i think we should all flock to the south to defend the homeland once again once this dispicable duo is elected.
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Postby semo88 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:30 pm

Pretty sure he'll get my vote. No idea what the future will hold if Obama is the president, but it can't be much worse than things are now.

For everybody who's afraid those awful Democrats will take away your guns, don't worry, you'll have already sold them for gas money anyway. :thumbsup:

Man this sucks, how about us DHC members all throw our support behind a third-party candidate, whoever the hell that might be. I don't like McCain or Obama all that much.
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Postby Montanafowler » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:31 pm

I'll write in Ted Nugent.
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Postby portahunter » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:14 am

semo88 wrote: Man this sucks, how about us DHC members all throw our support behind a third-party candidate, whoever the hell that might be. I don't like McCain or Obama all that much.


Ok, how bout Ted Nugent.


Lookin like I'll be voting for McCain this November.
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Postby seastreet » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:36 am

Ron Paul has always been there guys. I have had real problems with his ideas on Iraq and isolationism, but the rest of his ideas (especially on domestic issues) are right on. Other than foreign policy, Ron Paul is as about conservative as it gets. George Bush and John McCain are nothing more than RINO's with big government egos. It'll be a cold day in hell, before I ever vote for Obamalamadingdong or Hitlary.
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Postby Botiz630 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:41 am

Things are gonna start to liven up, thats for sure!
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:14 am

semo88 wrote:Pretty sure he'll get my vote. No idea what the future will hold if Obama is the president, but it can't be much worse than things are now.
Go back and look how things were during the 70's. It is NOT bad right now. It can get a hell of a lot worse. Obama is a naive fool much like Jimmy Carter.

If Obama wins - Iran has nuclear weapons. Islamo-fascist terrorist are given a moral victory in Iraq. Government spending consumes even greater amount of your hard work, except for those that decide it's better to not work at all (this includes rich and poor). Those of us in the middle will have to bust are asses even more or live with less.

Remember the Democrats, including Obama and Clinton, have controlled Congress for most of the run up in gasoline prices. I don't recall any Obama - Clinton bills that have been put forth in Congress. If they have such great ideas, what the hell are the waiting for? If we don't elect them President, then they are going to keep them to themselves?

They have no ideas whatsoever. If they did, they would have put them into bills. They offer nothing but false hope. If things are so bad, why haven't they acted. It's always easy to beat up some one that actually does something. They are both like nagging wives or nosy neighbors that tell you what you are doing is wrong, but have no clue how to do it themselves.

If Obama becomes President, you will learn how clueless he is and how it really can get much worse.

He is going to win because most of the media is simply terrified to criticize him or in anyway appear to slight him because they aren't racist. I read an editorial in the Chicago Tribune and they felt the need to explain why they talked about McCain before Obama. It was just an alphabetical thing :no: It's pretty hopeless.
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Postby olddkguide » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:16 am

Let's not be stupid. Mc Cain is going to need every vote he can get.
Writing someone in is like throwing your vote to the wind. I don't like McCain very much but we know what will happen with the Dems in control of all three branches. Yes, I said all three branches. The federal courts will be filled with extreme liberal judges, nominated by and approved by the most liberal party. Spending will go through the roof with all kinds of programs for " minorities" . Taxes will increase across the board. We will be forced into a socialist medical program.
Our nation will be perceived as no longer to sustain a war to victory, making us weaker abroad and an easy target for our enemies. Like it or not if you consider yourself conservative we all have to vote for Mc Cain. The only thing that Obama has proven while being in the Senate is just how far to the left he really is. Obama has not crossed the aisle once to even attempt to work with a Republican. How can he say he wants to change Washington when he has never even made an attempt himself. Obamas rhetoric is full of empty promises to those individuals who feel like they are due entitlements. I could go on but I'll stop here.
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Postby Preacher1011 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:13 am

All we can hope for oldk is that none of the present judges die, or retire. It is a life term afterall. Some of them are getting old though :no:
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Postby captainduckhead » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:48 am

portahunter wrote:
semo88 wrote: Man this sucks, how about us DHC members all throw our support behind a third-party candidate, whoever the hell that might be. I don't like McCain or Obama all that much.


Ok, how bout Ted Nugent.


Lookin like I'll be voting for McCain this November.

Writing in is wasting your vote, I hope you guys aren't serious. McCain needs our votes, he's a war hero, he's a veteran, and a real life actual AMERICAN. But by all means the rest of you snivelling, whining, pinko's feel free to vote for your chosen one. Let Obama erode this country.
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Postby Das booted » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:49 pm

semo88 wrote:Pretty sure he'll get my vote. No idea what the future will hold if Obama is the president, but it can't be much worse than things are now.


You know there is nothing like election year rhetoric. Low unemployment, one of the highest home ownership rates in history even after the subprime problems and no terrorist attacks of any kind in the US since 9/11 - How bad are things? For most not too bad, but it is the age we live in - everybody wants free health care, the ability to drive a gas guzzler, and no wars with somebody else paying the price for all of it. Wake-up it could get a lot worse - why do you think we have an illegal alien problem, if it was better elsewhere - they wouldn't be here. Travel elsewhere and you'll have a better appreciation for just how good we actual have it NOW.
semo88 wrote:For everybody who's afraid those awful Democrats will take away your guns, don't worry, you'll have already sold them for gas money anyway. :thumbsup:


Gee what party keeps voting down new nuclear power, new oil exploration and drilling, new hydro power dams and coal - the only economically viable options to petroleum that would keep prices and dependency lower - Ah, the Dems. Can't wait to get a windmill on the top of my SUV or a solar panel on the wife's Benz. Just keep waiting for those non-exportable green jobs, you think that if we every could make an economically viable windmill or solar panel they wouldn't be knocked off cheaper by the Chinese. Wake up fools - the Dems have always promised economic benefits they couldn't deliver. Anybody for more social programs and some matching taxes. :stouff:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:27 pm

My life was so much easier 30 years ago. Things have never been tougher for me. I lived such a carefree life 30 years ago. What went wrong?

Oh yeah, 30 years ago I was 8. I had no responsibilities what so ever. Life was perfect.

Now I have a wife, a mortgage, bills, job responsibilities, ... The world really has gone to the crapper over the last 30 years for me. I just want to be carefree again.
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Postby seastreet » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:36 pm

While not endorsing one candidate or another, I couldn't help but share something I saw that came from the Irish press...

When it comes to the Americans electing a new president, the choices are...

2 scumbag lawyers who will lie, cheat or do anything to get elected.

or...

A decorated war hero, who's wife owns a beer distributorship.

What's so hard about this choice?


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Postby Montanafowler » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:45 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:My life was so much easier 30 years ago. Things have never been tougher for me. I lived such a carefree life 30 years ago. What went wrong?

Oh yeah, 30 years ago I was 8. I had no responsibilities what so ever. Life was perfect.

Now I have a wife, a mortgage, bills, job responsibilities, ... The world really has gone to the crapper over the last 30 years for me. I just want to be carefree again.


let someone hit you over the head with a bat, that ought to make you pretty carefree if you suffer brain damage and some motor skills. :yes:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:01 pm

I actually think that is why people think things used to be so much better. In the mid 70's everybody was 30 years younger and of course things were generally much easier for them. However, this was some of the worst economic times we have had and definitely far worse than today. Life was much better for them when they were younger and they have no other reference for judging how things are on average in the town, state, country, or the world. It feels worse to them, so that must make it so.

They have things that then confirm this for them.

No matter how much we improve life expectancy people are going to die from cancer, heart disease, ...

No matter how low crime rates are there will always be murders, rapes, child abductions, ...

Things will never be perfect and this somehow confirms their feeling that things have never been worse and everything is going to hell.

Why do you think politicians, especially Democrats, trot out individuals that have a problem to justify the policy for a country of 300,000,000? With a population as large as ours, you can find examples of everything that occurs at a frequency of 1 out of 300,000,000. Lotteries generally have odds that are only 1 out of a few million. People win the lottery every day. That doesn't make it a good retirement plan for everybody in the country.
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Postby dudejcb » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:06 pm

What a bunch Nammering Nabobs of Negativism! (thank you Spiro.)

forget all the gloom and doom. Just enjoy the entertainment value you'll be getting for the next 5 months. You can't write or buy this kind of a show.

Besides you'll have plenty of time for hand wringing between November and inauguration (sp?) day, and with the new duck season fully underway the hand wringing may actually warm your fingers and serve a useful purpose.

Nabobs!

(BTW: this iliterative phrase was written by William Saffire
of the New York Times back when he was a speach writer for the Nixon adminstration in the early70's.)
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Postby plainsman » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:54 pm

I hear the Dem.s are promising a free barrel to every family.....you know.....so they can bend you over it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You guys are soooo screwed!!!!
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Postby Greenhead329 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:50 pm

Guys...this is some scary arse skit....Every hunter/outdoorsman, middle class hardworking citizen needs to vote for Mccain at this point...if not the freedoms and privileges we've enjoyed in the past may be lost...

With democrats controling everything...they can be as liberal as they want.
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Postby dudejcb » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:56 pm

nattering nabob nitwits!

Don't you realize, hasn't it been made clear... even if the democrats have the majority in the house, the senate and control the white house, they'll still fight and bicker amongst themselves. Remember what will Rogers said: " I'm not part of any organized political organization. I'M A DEMOCRAT!" Chill out.

Just cuz the Dems might be in large and in charge doesn't mean they will march in lock step the way R's do. They like nothing better than debating and fighting amongst themselves. They are tow or three pareties unto themselves. So RELAX! Democrats have built in self destruct mechanisms. Trust me on this.

Geez. What a bunch a scaredy cats.
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Postby Pumpgunner » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:18 pm

Who are the ones who are kept in charge
Killers, Thieves, and Lawyers
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Seemed like a good place to quote some great lyrics. I'm still gonna vote for Obama, but don't worry guys, I live in Utah, which is redder than Sputnik.
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Postby seastreet » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:44 am

dudejcb wrote:So RELAX! Democrats have built in self destruct mechanisms. Trust me on this.


Yep... That was proven in the 70's with Jimmy Carter and a Democratically controlled Congress. We went from post Vietnam rebuilding era, straight into a recession with double digit inflation and interest rates and gasoline rationing with prices out of this world. In today's world, that would be equal to about $12 a gallon, and that was rationed according to what was the last number on your license plate. The result was a one term Jimmy Carter replaced by the greatest president of my lifetime, Ronald Reagan.

It happened again in the 90's, when Bill Clinton was president, and the Congress was still held by Democrats. The American electorate had had enough, and elected the Republicans to take over after only 2 years of total control.

Either party having total control is dangerous. That goes for Republicans or Democrats. The Republicans have been more fractured in having RINOs and staunch conservatives. That is why there has been so much turmoil within the party. The Democrats have been marching lock step in their ever shifting left message, and the one Democrat who dared to disagree with them, was bounced from the party, even though he was candidate for VP just 4 years earlier. That Democrat was Joe Lieberman.

Until this country develops a viable third party which can break up the gestapo in DC, I am content with one party ruling one brach and the other ruling the other. That way, they can't screw us anymore than they already have. If the Dems hold onto Congress, then the GOP needs to hold on to the White House. Vice versa if the Dems take the White House. Then the GOP needs to take back Congress. More gridlock seems to protect my wallet & personal liberites much better in the the last 30 years.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:37 am

seastreet wrote:Until this country develops a viable third party which can break up the gestapo in DC
There will never be a viable third party (I know there have been some successes in the past, but times have changed) with a winner take all and virtual 100% incumbent reelection rate guaranteed by all the restriction on campaign finances. How can an unknown raise any real money at $2,000 per person? Restricting campaign contributions is not a 100% good thing without any trade offs. It's really done a great job of taking the influence of money out of politics :rofl:

Term limits is the only possibility that I see of really changing things and getting real debates about real issues.

There will be no debate on abortion, gun control, socialized medicine, immigration, social security, or any of the truly hot button emotional issues. Just a bunch of nonsense that sounds good but doesn't say a damn thing. Like I'm for change. I think he's the first presidential candidate in history to suggest we need change. :rolleyes:

Term limits

Term limits

Term limits

That's the drum we need to be beating. I believe that's actually something everybody, except the career politicians, can get behind.
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Postby gadwall getter » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:44 pm

God i wish huckabee was still in this sucker!!! well now i guess i gotta go for mcCain.
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