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Obama's Running Mate

Postby dudejcb » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:18 pm

This is a pretty good article by George Will about clinton and Obama. I think Hillary would be a disaster on his ticket on several levels.

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Postby rmh » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:04 pm

I agree with you about Clinton. There's also the "Bill" problem. Obama will have to pick someone that would be considered "establishment", kind of like Dukakis had Bentsen. Two groundbreakers would be too much. McCain, on the other hand, has to pick someone young enough to quiet people's concerns about his age (that leaves Colin Powell out, he's 70 or so). He also has to pick someone that has a broader appeal to peel away the Hilary voters, that probably leaves out Romney and Huckabee (and him for a bunch of other reasons). Mike Steele of MD would be good (personal friend disclosure) but he ran a crappy campaign for Senate a couple years ago and lost when he should have won. My money is on a Latino, maybe female. Another possible is the Gov. of LA Bobby Jindal, first generation, parents from India. Christian, to allay the religious right. REAL smart.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:15 pm

The more I hear about Bobby Jindal, the more I like him.

God I hope Obama doesn't pick Clinton. The only reason I voted for him in the primary was to get rid of the Clintons. I'd hate for that to have been a wasted vote.
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Postby dudejcb » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:30 pm

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Jim Webb would be good running mate for Obama. He has the military background to help him out. Former marine, secretary of the navy. well respected.

I can't see Obama picking clinton... especially when they were demanding it. He can't cave in to the demand and then look strong, and have her and Billy floting around. Can't happen.

She could however, ask to replace Reid as Majority Leader in the Senate.
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Postby QUACK3XS » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:38 pm

I hope it's the HILABEAST, cause I sure don't want Obama to nominate her to the SUPREME COURT :thumbsdown: I say let be VP for 4 or 8. That way we won't have to deal with her for the rest of her life :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Postby jrockncash » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:42 pm

I hope he picks Hillary or Al Sharpton. That would be perfect.

Not to hi jack to bad but Dude whats with your affinity to droppin names on the Repubs and then when there are good names to be dropped against yer boy, nothing?

For example: Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Plegger(sp), and a couple others. Just wondering what you thought about
those guys.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:43 pm

i think picking hillary would be suicide. politically and literally. there are so many crazy racists and anti-feminists, i cant imagine shots not being taken at them....
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Postby dudejcb » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:59 pm

jrockncash wrote:Not to hi jack to bad but Dude whats with your affinity to droppin names on the Repubs and then when there are good names to be dropped against yer boy, nothing?

For example: Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Plegger(sp), and a couple others. Just wondering what you thought about
those guys.


No question, those guys are scum. I've know some scum in my time and just because I knew them before i realized they were scum, once or they were involved in something I also was involved but separately, doesn't mean I like them or am influenced by them. So, for the most part, I don't go with the guilt by association thing, unless the association is really close and clear.

I'm not sure what your referring about my affinity for droppin' names in particular. for the most part the names I drop are administration insiders who are active participants in whatever thing I'm bitchin about.
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Postby jrockncash » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:44 pm

No you cleared it up. I just was pointing out some names that could be used on the "Right" side of the argument.
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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 pm

Bobby Jindal? the Hindu dude?

I think you guys have been DHC'n to much. You guys are buying into the minority vote. You think a black guy and a hispanic dude can get elected? Slim chance. Look for Non polarizing figures and almost certainlly WHITE MEN. McCain will pick a relatively young conservative with little record, like Tom Ridge. Barak on the other hand may go with someone similarly socialist minded, he will probably go with a young, bright, guy with little or no record but with recognition. What you guys forget about him is he has no record, so his vice must have little or no record. I think he'd be more inclined to put michele in at VP than some of your guesses. Look at what he's done so far with no record. He's proven you don't need answers, you need speechwriters.
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Postby Redline29 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:48 am

I bet Obama wishes he could put this guy on the ticket.

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Postby don taylor » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:21 am

Big tough hard guy Che died while crying like a little girl begging and pleading to be spared. Not what they want you to remember about the revolutions hero.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:37 am

dudejcb wrote:Spinner, You crossed over!
I guess it depends on how you define "crossed over" because when I first registered to vote, I registered Democrat. I did it because I was going to get a county job and had to be registered to vote and had to be a registered Democrat. The exact quote was "I don't care how you vote, but if you want the job you need to register Democrat." I've never lived in a state since then that had a partisan registration.

Simple answer. Yes. I thought it was far more important to get rid of the Clintons than any of the choices on the Republican ballet.

don taylor wrote:Bobby Jindal? the Hindu dude?

I think you guys have been DHC'n to much. You guys are buying into the minority vote.
Can't speak for anybody else, but it has exactly zip to do with anything other than he sounds like a highly successful, highly motivated conservative. He's catholic BTW. His parents were born in India, which isn't exactly going to help a lot with any minority votes. Although, there are a lot of gas stations out there.
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Postby greenster » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:16 am

The only way Obama can win is with Hillary. I cant remember where I seen the survey. But 70% of Hillary voters said they would vote for MAC, over obama, unless Clinton is on the ticket.
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Postby dudejcb » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:14 pm

Don't know Greenster. I think they'll get used to the idea of whoever Obama picks... there's plenty of time.

I think Jim Webb brings the military expertise Obama needs as well as his middle class working background, and thie probablility the he would get Virginia to take Obama in the general.

Clinton will have to make herself useful in the senate... perhaps as majority leader if Harry Reid is willing to step aside. or she could be a mucky muck important committee chair. \or myabe even two or three committees, or be in the cabinet.

I think Obama/Clinton is the R's dream come true. A ticket made up of one devisive personality to alarge segment of the country, and the other devisive along racial lines (through no fault of his own). It's a no win.

But Webb has the chops to negate McCain militarily, and other advisors can help with the economy.
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Postby jrockncash » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:56 pm

You forgot the crap bill that Webb is pushing that encourages people in the military to get out and get a better GI bill.

The smarter addition to the bill which McCain has shown support for is to have a graduated scale that gives more and more benefits that encourage good men to stay in and have even more to show for it when they get out.

But I still hope for a Hillary Obomba ticket.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:18 am

Jim Webb will definitely help sooth the wounds with the women.

It's a bit old, but he was not a kid. I've only read part of it, so I don't how serious it is, but it would kill a Republican because you dare not even go there in the progressive world.

Jim Webb: Women Can't Fight
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What is clear from the Webb bill is that the only thing the progressives understand is spending. We support you. Here's somebodyelse's money. Isn't money why you dumbasses chose to risk your life and limbs for this country?

The military is just another social program to them. The last thing we need in the military are people that are in it for the money and benefits. Yeah, that's how you really get the best warriors. Idiots. He should know better.

I actually don't think he is progressive. He is just a panderer that is peddling progressive b.s. for self benefit. Although, it's hard to argue with success.
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Postby Rat Creek » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:25 pm

If Obama picks Hilary, he has likely lost the election. He has to pull in cross-over votes and a Clinton on the ticket prevents that.

And even if he wins, it will be a circus. Bill is not going to sit in the background and Hilary isn’t going to travel the world attending funerals. Those two megalomaniacs will work all day, every day to undermine Obama and get him out of the picture.

The truth of the matter is I don’t think the primary is over yet. You just know the Clintons are working in the background to throw this guy under the Clinton bus. :yes:
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