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Do you put your hand over your hear during the National Anthem?

Everytime
30
86%
Never
2
6%
Sometimes
3
9%
 
Total votes : 35

Obama and the National Anthem

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:44 am

I never put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem. I stop what I am doing, take off my hat, stand, and look at the flag. I guess I can never run for President because there is probably video.

I dislike Obama as much or more than anybody, but these kind of attacks look petty and will be counterproductive. There are a ton of real issues, but to criticize him for doing something that a large fraction of the population does is just petty.

The pledge of allegiance is different.
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Postby woodie77 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:16 am

i voted never because even though i am no longer in the military i still come to attention during the national anthem and the pledge of allegiance...i think if you are not gonna pop tall then you should at the very least put your hand over your heart...just my opinion though...
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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:59 am

I do everytime. Depending on who is singing, I even get a little choked up. Do I think its a presidential issue? No. Will I instill the patriotism in my kids to cover their heart with their hand? Yes.
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Postby LIGHT12 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:03 pm

I do every time. but i see a lot of people especailly at baseball games that don't. As was said above this is a petty attack. I'm not goign to vote for him because he is a giant bag of inexperienced lies.
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Postby Pumpgunner » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:13 pm

Personally I think that it's a waste of time to attack someone over how they express their patriotism. I love my country but don't feel the need to put my hand over my heart to prove it. When I hear the anthem I think of all of the lives sacrificed to defend my freedom to define patriotism and respect as I see fit. Forcing everyone do the same thing to the national anthem, and ridiculing those who don't, seems a little too Stalinist to me!
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Postby CLUTCHfan » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:12 pm

I do. I don't usually wear a hat, but if I am wearing one, I take it off and hold that over my heart. Way back when I was in the Boy Scouts, one of the leaders was a Marine who served in Korea. Definately one of the nicest, kindest, most badass people I've ever known. He definately put things into perpective when it came to things like Patriotism and the National Anthem. I think that giving the National Anthem and the Flag respect is more than just giving a song and some cloth respect, it's more about respecting those who gave everything they ever had, and ever would've had. I could care less if Obama wears a flag pin on his Lapel. I could care less if he said that there are things he doesn't like about this country. It does bother me if he doesn't put his hand over his heart during the anthem.
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Postby jaysweet3 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:49 pm

We were taught to put our hand over our heart in the 1st grade. I guess it just stuck with me. And %90 of the time I sing along with our anthem, proabably much to the displeasure of those around me.

I see Obama's lack of public affection for our country as the least reason not to vote for him. It is his lack of experience, his disreguard for the 2nd amendment, that he is soft on crime, he has poor judgement with who he surrounds him self with, that he is nothing more than a talking head, and has a socialist approach to running our contry, as the real reasons not to vote for him.
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Postby 1ynggun » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 pm

My grandpa was in two wars and I'll be damned if I just stand there in absolute disrespect with no hand on my heart. I have done it my entire life. And if our own president does not have the respect to do that, he is just another piece of crap bringing down the USA. I put my hand on my heart for all of the lives lost, all of the tears shed by families, and the everlasting nightmares our troops go through to defend this country.

Maybe deep down, he has no respect for our country. Maybe everytime he looks at that flag he is pissed, because our colors of red, white, and blue kicked his ethnic races' ass.


But hey, thats just my .02 cents .....
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Postby huntingdude16 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:47 pm

his disreguard for the 2nd amendment, that he is soft on crime

Usually the first one is trying to be tough on crime when a politician is against it.


Maybe everytime he looks at that flag he is pissed, because our colors of red, white, and blue kicked his ethnic races' ass.

You DO know his mother was white and his father black, right?

You must be making the 'Obama-Osama' connection. Can I also say Hillary is a muslim because of her middle name? Rodham sounds an awfull lot like Saddam.... :rolleyes:



Don't take this as supporting Obama, because it isnt. Just trying to set facts straight.
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Postby 1ynggun » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:00 pm

I understand his background. But I am sure there is more to it than a white mom and black dad.......you are not born american and have a name like that...haha....scary to think how close his name resembles the terrorists and Iraq.........

I will not be voting for anyone in this election as I believe none of them deserve the big chair....but I will be voting AGAINST Obama..

Maybe one of us duck hunters should run next time...... :rofl:
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Postby huntingdude16 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:37 pm

My last name is Biewer(said 'bew-were'). It's a true German name. It would actually say 'Beaver' if we were in Germany.

That said, does that make me a nazi? No, obviously.


So, when I see such comparisons of 'Obama-Osama', I just think it's silly.....


I would have to agree with a duck-hunting president though. :biggrin:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:05 am

The numbers are interesting. It seems clear that certain segments of the country take the hand over the heart during the National Anthem very seriously. Not when I was growing up. At about 4 to 1 for always over the rest, I was really surprised. Not the results I expected, but very informative.

Maybe it's just that my one middle school home room teacher was so stoned or hung over in the morning that he couldn't tell the difference between pop music and the National Anthem. They played music before the morning announcement every morning. About once a week, it was the National Anthem and we all had to stand up, but not put our hand over our heart. My stoner home room teacher made us stand for every song whether it was Madonna or the National Anthem. I figure he was just so stoned that he couldn't tell the difference and figured better safe than sorry.
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