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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:13 am

I've decided to openly carry my Kimber from now on. I'm going with a nice hip holster and a friendly attitude. Its legal to carry openly in my state. I got this info from a site called opencarry.org Does anyone else openly carry?
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Postby shoot-n-goose » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:23 am

i was thinking about carrying if i have to work in detroit with a buddy of mine. Hes had guys steal anything that wasnt bolted down or locke up while he was on the roof.
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Re: Open Carry

Postby wackemstackem » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:44 am

don taylor wrote:I've decided to openly carry my Kimber from now on. I'm going with a nice hip holster and a friendly attitude. Its legal to carry openly in my state. I got this info from a site called opencarry.org Does anyone else openly carry?


Don your gonna openly carry because you read on some website.

Do you have a good lawyer..?
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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:44 am

I mean having it on your hip in plain sight. I'm going to the grocery store, bank, and to the park with it on my hip. I am having this desire to display my love of the second amendment as I thought the founding fathers intended.
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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:48 am

Oh no, I've actually done more research than I'm letting on. That site was just VERY informative. In my state its legal, except in Philly, then I need a LTCF. Same for transport in a vehicle. Its legal because its not ILLEGAL. I think the term is Defacto?
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Postby LIGHT12 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:55 am

I don't know how much you looked into it. But I know of some states that it is legal but some police departments will ticket you for a nongun related offense such as disturbing the peace. Because they believe it will cause a problem in the public. the public sees it so seldom, and you will have the police called on you. I have heard of police departments making peoples lives hell in Wisconsin which had the same defacto law, or atleast did.
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Postby wackemstackem » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:57 am

Yea Don,strap that iron on and head on down to the bank and make a withdrawl.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:02 pm

If I lived in Pittsburgh, I'd be carrying to. However, I agree with the others that you are just looking for unnecessary trouble.

Does everybody in Pittsburgh carry?

As I said before, my brother delivered beer in Pittsburgh. It took him to the finer parts of the city where demand was highest. I missed if it was him or another driver, but they were delivering beer in one of the finer areas of your beloved city when the driver saw a women with a broke down car. The driver stopped to help her and offered a lift. The driver jokingly said you need to be carefully who you get into a truck with in this part of town. She opened her purse and said maybe you need to be careful who you pick up. He lifted his jacket and said not really. :smile:
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Postby La. Hunter » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:14 pm

Don,

Unless you are prepared to seeing "Don Taylor vs. The State of Pennsylvania" on a regular basis, I would advise against open carry. LIGHT12 is correct that someone could claim that when you entered the bank, while openly carrying, that it caused widespread panic and in fact did disturb someones peace. I would hope that the NRA would back you on this, but with a 5-4 ruling by SCOTUS, I would be afraid of what this outcome may be. If something like this was ever to make it to SCOTUS, I am afraid that the makeup of the SCOTUS would have changed and it would be a step back for our 2nd ammendment rights.

Anyway, whatever you decide, let us know how it goes.

For what its worth, I believe that we should all be able to openly carry wherever we go, but haven't really had the time on my hands to test the system.
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Postby HotDog » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:31 pm

Why would you want to advertise that you have a gun?
You would be the first target for "Johnny Nogood".
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Postby CLUTCHfan » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:59 pm

You have to have a permit to have any kind of handgun in the socialist state that is New York. I know people who've had their guns on their belts open carry, and had the police called on them several times even though they were doing nothing wrong. People are ignorant about guns, and will call you in even if you're in the right. What are the concealed carry laws there? I'd rather carry concealed then open if I had the choice.
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Postby Redline29 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:10 pm

I live in PA and have my carry permit. I have not heard of this open carry law (not saying you are wrong) You might get away with it in smaller towns, but Pittsburgh? I don't think that would really be a good idea.

I was carrying in the local Getto mart here in town and I reached for something on the top shelf, my jacket rode up above my waist and the lady next to me had a fit when she saw my .45 on my hip.

After I explained to her I had a permit and was legal she still went off on me. I told her I do not answer to her and walked away.

Now I think PA has a "brandish law" of sorts. I am unsure of the details. But I think it only applies to those who do brandish with the intent to intimidate somebody. HotDog is right, keep it concealed and keep it quiet. And dont reach for things on the top shelf.
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Re: Open Carry

Postby jehler » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:42 pm

don taylor wrote:I've decided to openly carry my Kimber from now on. I'm going with a nice hip holster and a friendly attitude. Its legal to carry openly in my state. I got this info from a site called opencarry.org Does anyone else openly carry?
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Postby pennsyltucky » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:46 pm

u can carry a handgun in pa without a permit if its not concealed. it has to be in the open, and if a cop questions you or pulls you over, without the ccw permit, he can confiscate it while he is doin his business. no big deal, just make dang sure its on the dash when he walks up... plain sight or he takes it... :no:
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Postby mailyard » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:42 pm

vt is awesome you can carry opean or concealed....nice
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Postby Pumpgunner » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:57 pm

Don you should move out here to Utah, there's a town down south where it's actually illegal not to own a gun. Also they've declared themselves a UN free zone, I think you could openly carry down there as much as you want! Downside is everybody else in town is related and you'll probably have to marry a few of their daughters to fit in- gotta defend all those wives you know :yes:
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Postby Preacher1011 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:30 pm

It's legal to carry one open here in TN too. No where in the law does it say it has to be concealed. You don't have to, but it could cause problems. When I hit 21 and pick up my Sig Sauer P-220 it's going to be open 85% of the time.
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Postby AWOTIS » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:20 pm

i dont advise that you carry it open unless you want the cops called on you every time you go into a store. you may want to check the law in your state to make sure you cant go into a bank or bar with it on in ca. even with a permit you cant go into a bar, school and a few other places. dont carry on a school grounds you will have more cops on you than you ever knew lived in your town and you might end up shot. BE VERY CAREFULL....
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Postby Smackaduck » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:29 pm

I disagree with the proposed mahem. I openly carried for years and still do. I have one on my side when we go somewhere hunting or fishing. If we stop at a store it stays with me. The only time Ill unholster it and leave it in the truck is if were going in a liquor store or bank. I have never seen anyone freak out. I have received some funny looks but that is all.
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Postby don taylor » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:22 pm

Well tonight was the first night. I went to a restaurant called HyeHolde and had a nice dinner with my wife, nephew and his girlfriend. In this upscale joint I didn't even so much as get a second look. I even went to pearl handgrips on a matte black Kimber for contrast. Nothing. No looks, No stares, No freaking. Nothing. I will always open carry now. I don't know if everyone figured me for a cop or what, but it was a different feeling than concealed (which I have done for years). Everyone was nicer, talkative and wanted to please us. My nephew is no considering it because of the lack of response from people. If a $400 bill rest. doesn't say a thing, I'm betting most other places won't either. I'll let you know tomorrow, I'm going to wal mart to shop.
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Postby jaysweet3 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:23 pm

I need to move. Illinois has become such a liberal state. Il and Wisconsin are the two states that have total bans on carrying, open or concealed. All the while Chicago has the highest murder rate in the country. If we are accosted in any matter we are to call the police. They can come well after the fact and fill out a report. Typical liberalism, the government know better and will take care of us.
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Postby Preacher1011 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:26 pm

Ditto on the bar thing. It's a federal offense to carry ANY weapon in a place that serves alcohol. Banks, National as well as State parks, and certain other places are off limits too. Of course all of those (except the alcohol one) are void if you are a police officer thanks to Bush.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:53 am

i think cops should be REQUIRED to be armed all day every day everywhere they go.


ive thought about carrying open here, and i might start. keep it up don, im lookin forward to some stories :smile: eventually im sure someone will question you... :biggrin:
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Postby don taylor » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:00 am

State and federal offices are the only places I know of that you cannot carry a gun. The restaurant I was in last night was certainly serving alcohol. If its a federal law, please cite the law/ code. I don't want to do anything that's going to get me arrested, but I'm going to carry everywhere, bars, banks, everywhere.
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Postby Preacher1011 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:20 am

don taylor wrote:State and federal offices are the only places I know of that you cannot carry a gun. The restaurant I was in last night was certainly serving alcohol. If its a federal law, please cite the law/ code. I don't want to do anything that's going to get me arrested, but I'm going to carry everywhere, bars, banks, everywhere.


Don, I'm not sure if it's federal or state. I know I saw on a sign something about it being a misdemeanor (sp?) of 11 months 29 days for carrying in a place that serves alcohol. Not sure if it was state or federal though. I'll look it up though.

Penns, it's not required to carry if your a cop, at least here. It is a bad idea if you don't though. When I go in my pistols coming where ever I do, never know when you'll meet some p-oed person you threw in jail looking for revenge.
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