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Postby littlegray_2000 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:42 pm

Since I don't want to steal the thread I am going to start a new one. It is going to be about Handgun Laws in your state in refernece to carrying them.
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Postby don taylor » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:03 am

Sorry about the hostile sounding reply. I was trying to make some things a little less fuzzy and clearly evoke a response from you guys. There seems to be a definite time when CC is more appropriate than OC. Its is the situation your going to be in that should help decide.

As far as the rest goes, I'm never going to leave my families fate in the hands of the criminal. I will always take any situation to the source. I feel what your saying about criminals planning. I would hope to disrupt their plans. Or better yet, end their plans.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 am

so don, are you still oc'ing? any stories?
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Postby Montanafowler » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:09 am

ooh, ooh, they open carried at my zoo, i was so happy! :biggrin:
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Postby don taylor » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:20 am

pennsyltucky wrote:so don, are you still oc'ing? any stories?


I've been followed through the Home Depot on several instances. I wasn't sure if they wanted me out, were checking me out, or didn't believe that I wasn't stealing anything. I now get personal escorts in the depot.

I also started to OC every once in a while on my motorcycles. That's something else. How courteous people are when they see the gun on your hip is the best thing about it.

I also carried at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. I saw 4 others OC'n and struck up conversation. Seems most of them had been confronted earlier and the police were made aware. Not a problem all day.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:21 am

when i get the LTCF i plan on OC'n some,(i know i dont need it, but it would be a pain to drive around) but i really doubt ill get any backlash in such a small town. ive seen lots of guys in the bank or the store during hunting season OCing their hunting arms.

the stories are interesting. keep em coming regardles of what some of the guys on here think :thumbsup:
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Postby rmh » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:26 am

Just kidding sort of but will you OC at the Great Stone(y)boro Fair?
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Postby devildog28 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:56 pm

I have a few thoughts, hopefully I'm understood and not offensive.

I think there are pros and cons to each. I'm surprised after all these posts no one mentioned that oc could possibly deter someone from assailing you. But I might have missed that post. On the other hand it might prompt a test of you.

I agree that not everyone should carry in any manner but there are laws ensuring that. And I think everyone should be thoroughly familiar with their weapon. I carry mine all the time and its just like carrying a cell phone to me. But then I carried a machine gun for years in the marines. I have no problem killing someone that threatens my life, I've become used to it after having to do it numerous times. I had my neighbor go ballistic one night while I was safely unloading my pistol. I told her off without threatening her, and vocalized my rights. I live in tx where there is no oc but I feel like I could draw my sig just as fast if needed.

I get looks and comments all the time from people when I transport my various weapons, but they can kiss my a%#.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:26 am

rmh wrote:Just kidding sort of but will you OC at the Great Stone(y)boro Fair?



i plan to, but ill have to walk there if i dont get my butt in gear to get the LTCF... besides, what might you know about the (not-so) great stoney-b fair?
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Postby rmh » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:31 am

Been there before, say 30 years ago. Went to college with a kid from Stoneboro and the fair was sort of an inside joke with a bunch of us, including him. I'm from just a few miles east anyway.
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Postby don taylor » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:40 am

Devildog, Its not in good taste to unholster and handle a firearm in public. What reason do you have to unload a firearm in public? I just don't see any possible reason. I'm not trying to bust your balls. I tend to fall on the Kiss My A... side of the argument, but you have to resist the urge to handle a loaded pistol in public places. It just doesn't foster good opinions about guns and their owners.
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Postby devildog28 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:40 am

don taylor wrote:Devildog, Its not in good taste to unholster and handle a firearm in public. What reason do you have to unload a firearm in public? I just don't see any possible reason. I'm not trying to bust your balls. I tend to fall on the Kiss My A... side of the argument, but you have to resist the urge to handle a loaded pistol in public places. It just doesn't foster good opinions about guns and their owners.


I guess I was misinterputed, the only time I take it out in view is to safely unload it outside pointing towards the grass. I live in an apartment with people above and below and if something were to happen inside a bullet could go through the floor or ceiling. Also I have to park several yards away so I have no choice but to carry a weapon in view when going to the range etc. Most people just strike up a conversation about hunting or shooting with me

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Postby DuckinFool » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:45 am

If osama Obama gets elected and gets to pick a couple of liberal Supreme Court nominees it will no longer be a question of carry or not carry or conceal or open. It will become will I even be able to own a peashooter. He is already on record saying he believes the Supreme Court ruling on the second amendment was a bad decision. No surprise here knowing Obama is part of that gun grabbing bunch of thugs in Chicago ala Turbin Durbin and Daley. :mad:
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Postby Preacher1011 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:10 pm

I went to the OC once and it was full of liberals.
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Postby devildog28 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:54 pm

DuckinFool wrote:If osama Obama gets elected and gets to pick a couple of liberal Supreme Court nominees it will no longer be a question of carry or not carry or conceal or open. It will become will I even be able to own a peashooter. He is already on record saying he believes the Supreme Court ruling on the second amendment was a bad decision. No surprise here knowing Obama is part of that gun grabbing bunch of thugs in Chicago ala Turbin Durbin and Daley. :mad:


I don't think that even if he gets elected and appoints liberal judges that it wouldmake a difference. Supreme Court Justices are lifetime appointments, and I don't see the conservatives retiring anytime soon.

Think of it this way. If the dem congress retains the majority (which is unlikely given their performance) any law they make will get shot down by the supreme court.

Like I've said before I think him getting elected is very dangerous given his socialist/liberal views.
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Postby RightWing » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:12 am

jaysweet3 wrote:I need to move. Illinois has become such a liberal state. Il and Wisconsin are the two states that have total bans on carrying, open or concealed. All the while Chicago has the highest murder rate in the country. If we are accosted in any matter we are to call the police. They can come well after the fact and fill out a report. Typical liberalism, the government know better and will take care of us.


Very, very sad.....and in a place that needs CCW the most.

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http://www.handgunlaw.us/

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You probably didn't hear about 1 or 3 since it was black on white crime.....and I'm not a racist, I just hate thugs and have noticed a pattern.
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Postby devildog28 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:33 am

RightWing wrote:
jaysweet3 wrote:I need to move. Illinois has become such a liberal state. Il and Wisconsin are the two states that have total bans on carrying, open or concealed. All the while Chicago has the highest murder rate in the country. If we are accosted in any matter we are to call the police. They can come well after the fact and fill out a report. Typical liberalism, the government know better and will take care of us.


Very, very sad.....and in a place that needs CCW the most.

This is a good site........

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

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You probably didn't hear about 1 or 3 since it was black on white crime.....and I'm not a racist, I just hate thugs and have noticed a pattern.
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I'm not racist myself but I definatly am aware of the "pattern" as well.
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Postby DuckinFool » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:05 am

[/quote]I don't think that even if he gets elected and appoints liberal judges that it wouldmake a difference. Supreme Court Justices are lifetime appointments, and I don't see the conservatives retiring anytime soon.

Think of it this way. If the dem congress retains the majority (which is unlikely given their performance) any law they make will get shot down by the supreme court.

Like I've said before I think him getting elected is very dangerous given his socialist/liberal views.[/quote]

You do realize it was a narrow 1 judge margin don't you? I am very shocked that Kennedy went our way on it. That narrow 1 judge margin could have very easily gone the other way. Do not count on Kennedy if this issue comes before them again. We were way too close to losing our 2nd Amendment rights when this thing went down. When you start thinking it can't happen it will.
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Postby BullCajun » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:13 pm

People people, how many times have you been in public and see a side arm on some one and think, hey thats a criminal or someone you should fear. Never. You think it's a cop are some other affiliation that carries a weapon. As for the criminal types, I gaurantee they'll think twice. If you were a despicable heathen, who would you mug, Granny with the purse or Don with the iron strapped to his hip? Carry away Don!
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Postby devildog28 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:09 pm

BullCajun wrote:People people, how many times have you been in public and see a side arm on some one and think, hey thats a criminal or someone you should fear. Never. You think it's a cop are some other affiliation that carries a weapon. As for the criminal types, I gaurantee they'll think twice. If you were a despicable heathen, who would you mug, Granny with the purse or Don with the iron strapped to his hip? Carry away Don!


I was wondering like you why no one had brought that up before my post a couple weeks ago! I agree with you sir!
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Postby devildog28 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:24 pm

DuckinFool wrote:You do realize it was a narrow 1 judge margin don't you? I am very shocked that Kennedy went our way on it. That narrow 1 judge margin could have very easily gone the other way. Do not count on Kennedy if this issue comes before them again. We were way too close to losing our 2nd Amendment rights when this thing went down. When you start thinking it can't happen it will.


I do realize how close it was, and I agree that being complacent gives others and oppurtunity to trample on our rights. We need organizations to do the bidding for those of us who need a voice. That's why the NRA will have a new member shortly!!! :thumbsup:

There should be a permanent link for them on this site :yes:

As far as challenges, if it happens again it would be very hard for the court to go back on their own precedence. A victory is a victory no matter the margin.

If Osama pens a bill, I don't think that it would pass in one of the houses. The dems are very likely to lose seats after their dismal performance. A law like that would set off riots and cause chaos in the country. How the hell would they enforce it anyways?
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Postby RightWing » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:54 pm

BullCajun wrote:People people, how many times have you been in public and see a side arm on some one and think, hey thats a criminal or someone you should fear. Never. You think it's a cop are some other affiliation that carries a weapon. As for the criminal types, I gaurantee they'll think twice. If you were a despicable heathen, who would you mug, Granny with the purse or Don with the iron strapped to his hip? Carry away Don!


You sir, are absolutely correct.....most of the thugs are looking for an easy mark........but, unfortunately, some of them don't seem to care if they live or die.......I have to say that open carry even to me says LEO.....so if that's the message then wear it proudly.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:04 pm

its not just those 9 seats that are appointments. the pres appoints a miriad of positions from judges to generals. over the course of 4 years, obama will have many dozens of seats to fill. some will be important, and some not, but every one of them will be a socialist. they will all go to work for our freedoms, but not to protect...to take away.
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Postby don taylor » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:50 pm

If you have not yet, googe Thug report. While at first glance you may think the site is racist, they do have picture and stories of white and latino's.

Don't go to it if you are easily offended or if you get mad when you here what dez Playaz wit der Gats be doin' yo! You will be sick when you see a local story on the list.
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