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Who obama really is.

Postby waterfowlhunter » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:17 pm

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

this tells more of the story about this guy and his terrorist ties and Buddies.

He Really LOVES the UN too. That is what we DO NOT need.

Why would any TRUE American even consider this Idiot :huh:

If this has already been posted here then great, Here it is again. Email this link to as many people as you can and get the word out about the real obama :mad:
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Postby seastreet » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:13 pm

Stand by while PL_duckhunter12 gets his official talking points from the Obama campaign. :rolleyes:
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Postby Brydog » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:36 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

What a pile of crap. Anyone who would base their decision on the election from this attack is ignorant, bigoted, stupid, or all three.Image
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Postby waterfowlhunter » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 am

I have not heard, read or seen one bit of good from obama. But there sure is a LOT of facts about how useless he is. Those that choose to ingore these facts should have on a neck tie so we can pull their head out of their :moon:

Just MHO

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Postby captainduckhead » Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:06 am

Brydog, It's a good thing you're a duck hunter, and you have a beautiful yellow lab, because your political opinions are for the birds... Can you name one good thing Ali Baba Obama has done? Can you explain why exactly you are voting for this terrorist?
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Postby DoubleBayou » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:26 am

That's a solid - No

And no on else can either!
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:31 am

captainduckhead wrote: Can you explain why exactly you are voting for this terrorist?



"bush sucks bush sucks bush sucks"
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Postby seastreet » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:55 am

pennsyltucky wrote:
captainduckhead wrote: Can you explain why exactly you are voting for this terrorist?



"bush sucks bush sucks bush sucks"


There was once another person who had a large following, that despised the establishment, gave his followers hope of socialism, equality through redistribution of wealth, and they followed him blindly as a cult, much in the same manner as Obama's followers put him on a Christ-like pedestal. The only difference is....


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The place was Jonestown, and the leader was Jim Jones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
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Postby Rat Creek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:01 pm

Bush isn't on the ballot.

I also have never heard anyone state a specific for voting for Obama, except for unlimited abortion rights.

Only the normal... Hope for a Future full of Change that isn't the past.

Now the scary part. Apparently, that is enough for 40% of the electorate. :eek:
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Postby captainduckhead » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:46 pm

pennsyltucky wrote:
captainduckhead wrote: Can you explain why exactly you are voting for this terrorist?



"bush sucks bush sucks bush sucks"

So that's your reason for voting for Obama? Really? Bush Sucks? what a well though out, articulate response. You have totally convinced me to vote for this guy. Good job :no: I must be the dumbest American alive, I didn't know Bush was even running again. I guess I missed that on the Communist News Network
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Postby seastreet » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:51 pm

captainduckhead wrote:
pennsyltucky wrote:
captainduckhead wrote: Can you explain why exactly you are voting for this terrorist?



"bush sucks bush sucks bush sucks"

So that's your reason for voting for Obama? Really? Bush Sucks? what a well though out, articulate response. You have totally convinced me to vote for this guy. Good job :no: I must be the dumbest American alive, I didn't know Bush was even running again. I guess I missed that on the Communist News Network


PST was being sarcastic. He was mocking Brydog's only reason for voting for Obama. A true case of BDS. Maybe an emoticon would have been appropriate to inform everyone of pure sarcasm. I typically use a "[/sarcasm]" to infer such.
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Postby captainduckhead » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:55 pm

Oops, sorry Pen. I though you were one of the Americans trying to undermine the country that my grandfathers fought for. I apololgize. :oops:
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Postby dudejcb » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:58 pm

Apparently swift-boating season has opened. And its adherents and fans are gettin' busy puttin' out the smears and falsehoods.

Just the fact thatn Ann Poltergiest is on the video should be your first clue this is nonsense with no connection to reality.

Be afraid! be very very afraid!

"Unlimited abortion rights" ratcreek? really? more nonsensical jibberish.

You guys get yourselves worked up with BS and then the herd mentality (make that mob mentality) take over. Pass the torches!

simply unbelievable.
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Postby captainduckhead » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:00 pm

Dude, are you going to move to a commune soon, and drink the Kool-Aid too?
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Postby dudejcb » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:08 pm

No CDH. No commune, no coolaid. Although I did go fishing this weekend and caught a pile of crappie and perch... yum.

this band wagon witch hunting nonsense is getting well past stupid and into the scary-stupid zone. If any9one has anything reasonable to say that would be fine. But this is neither reasonable or intelligent.

BTW: I'm predicting an "October surprise" that involves Georgia and Cheney's recent visit there.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:15 pm

dudejcb wrote:Apparently swift-boating season has opened.
Of course. It's time the American public learns the truth about the Democratic candidates and not their made up story about themselves and the mainstream media reports without serious question. Thank God or it would be a Clinton/Obama ticket :eek:

John Kerry never released his military records. Why?

Obama never released his medical records. Why?

I know your a big open goverment guy and rail on secrecy. Why are the Democratic candidates so secret about everything?
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Postby Rat Creek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:18 pm

Sorry Dude, I misspoke. Unlimited choice for a woman when it comes to reproductive issues. I guess that doesn’t sound as creepy.

I work in the education industry with hordes of self described feminists. When I gently press them on the issue of Obama, they tell me he is on the right side of women issues. When I ask what that means exactly, it always comes back to the holy grail of the left, unrestricted abortion or unlimited choice for women when it comes to reproductive issues, if you prefer.

No one can name another issue for me other than platitudes about getting even with the rich, free healthcare for all and respect throughout the world.

Please show me the way. What are the details?
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Postby dudejcb » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:26 pm

Rat Creek: let's leave it at individual choice, which is where it should be. Recall that no one is pro-abortion... only pro individual choice.

Spinner, are you okay? What is it about Obama's medical records you want to know, and why? Kerry's military record wasn't hidden, unless you think the swift-boaters (who have been proven as brazen liars) yielded some insight of note. give it a rest.
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Postby pennsyltucky » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:42 pm

im pro choice.... on everything from abortion to taxes :biggrin:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:49 pm

dudejcb wrote:Spinner, are you okay?
Got a bit of a chest cold, but I'm getting better. More bumbed out that the geese haven't started flying yet. My club's grand total for this years still stands at zero :sad:

dudejcb wrote:What is it about Obama's medical records you want to know, and why?
It's normal for Presidents to make their medical records public. Clinton didn't and Obama won't. Why? If he is this young heathy viral guy, why wouldn't he. It is really weird.

dudejcb wrote:Kerry's military record wasn't hidden, unless you think the swift-boaters (who have been proven as brazen liars) yielded some insight of note. give it a rest.
What the hell are you talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy
Kerry was criticized by SBVTand some media entities for not authorizing independent public access to his privacy protected service records. After the election, on May 20, 2005, he did sign a Standard Form 180[80] allowing full release of all his military service records, including his reserve and discharge [81] records, as well as his medical records, to the Associated Press, the Boston Globe, and the Los Angeles Times. Kerry refused a request from the New York Sun to permit the Sun's reporters to inspect the records. [82]. The Boston Globe reported that the material largely duplicated what Kerry had released during the campaign, and included no "substantive new material". [83]

Asked why he had declined to sign the release earlier, Kerry responded:

The call for me to sign a 180 form came from the same partisan operatives who were lying about my record on a daily basis on the Web and in the right-wing media. Even though the media was discrediting them, they continued to lie. I felt strongly that we shouldn't kowtow to them and their attempts to drag their lies out. [84] [85]

He refused before the election and then released them to only a select group afterwards :huh: For a smart guy, you are not well informed. You need to start reading stuff other than crap like Oedipus Bush.
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Postby Rat Creek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:08 pm

It is an individual's choice as long as the individual isn't a baby. In that case, the individual doesn't count or have a choice. So given that, I truly believe pro-abortion is really the accurate term.

It makes people uncomfortable to say it, so they mask it with other benign sounding words- pro-choice, individual choice or women issues, though we all know what it means, a baby is going to die.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:27 pm

dudejcb wrote:let's leave it at individual choice, which is where it should be. Recall that no one is pro-abortion... only pro individual choice.
Where do you draw the line between a choice and a crime?

Conception?
1 month?
2 months?
3 months?
4 months?
5 months?
6 months?
7 months?
8 months?
9 months?
10 months?
Any time before the 18th birthday?

This is way more complicated than pro-choice / anti-choice.

Obama supports late-term abortions. Do you?

Obama believes that the choice continues even after the baby is born if the woman chose to kill "it" and "it" managed to get out alive. Is that the choice you support?

Do you support 13 year old girls getting abortions without parental concent? Obama does.

Obama holds a position that puts him to the left of all but an extremely small number of fanatics. His position is not even mainstream amongst "pro-choice" Americans.

The equivalent on the right would be someone that opposes the pill because it prevents implantation, which some consider an abortion, oppose aborting eptopic (sp?) pregnancies, and morning after pills for rape victums. There are very few of these people and too my knowledge, none of them hold high public office.

Most "right-wingers" believe Roe v. Wade has no basis in constitutional law and is an issue to be resolved by the state legislatures. This even includes pro-choice people. Like many issues that are resolved by the legislature, we aren't always happy with the outcome, but we live with it until we can change enough minds to change the law.
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Postby seastreet » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:31 pm

dudejcb wrote:Apparently swift-boating season has opened. And its adherents and fans are gettin' busy puttin' out the smears and falsehoods.


Spare me your ignorant hyperbole. After seeing what the Dems & their willing accomplices, the mainscream media, did to Sarah Palin and her family, I don't want to hear a damn word about swift boating. It just proves that the left will stoop to the most dispicable form of smearing. It is well beyond any military or voting record, when you go fabricating smear jobs on candidates' children, who are merely innocent bystanders.

You of all people got a real nerve to complain about "swift boating". :soapbox:
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Postby devildog28 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:
dudejcb wrote:let's leave it at individual choice, which is where it should be. Recall that no one is pro-abortion... only pro individual choice.
Where do you draw the line between a choice and a crime?

Conception?
1 month?
2 months?
3 months?
4 months?
5 months?
6 months?
7 months?
8 months?
9 months?
10 months?
Any time before the 18th birthday?

This is way more complicated than pro-choice / anti-choice.

Obama supports late-term abortions. Do you?

Obama believes that the choice continues even after the baby is born if the woman chose to kill "it" and "it" managed to get out alive. Is that the choice you support?

Do you support 13 year old girls getting abortions without parental concent? Obama does.

Obama holds a position that puts him to the left of all but an extremely small number of fanatics. His position is not even mainstream amongst "pro-choice" Americans.

The equivalent on the right would be someone that opposes the pill because it prevents implantation, which some consider an abortion, oppose aborting eptopic (sp?) pregnancies, and morning after pills for rape victums. There are very few of these people and too my knowledge, none of them hold high public office.

Most "right-wingers" believe Roe v. Wade has no basis in constitutional law and is an issue to be resolved by the state legislatures. This even includes pro-choice people. Like many issues that are resolved by the legislature, we aren't always happy with the outcome, but we live with it until we can change enough minds to change the law.


The morning after pill isn't the same thing as an abortion method. Basically it's potato starches that prevent the egg from attaching in the first couple days. Usually the egg doesn't even attach for that amount of days anyways.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 pm

devildog28 wrote:The morning after pill isn't the same thing as an abortion method. Basically it's potato starches that prevent the egg from attaching in the first couple days. Usually the egg doesn't even attach for that amount of days anyways.
Some people believe that is abortion since the egg has already been fertilized, otherwise you wouldn't need the morning after pill. I'm not a person that has a problem with the morning after pill. That falls into the choice category in my opinion.
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