dudejcb wrote:Bush and Condi refused to listen or heed any and all warnings they were given that "something big is about to happen" and "Bin Laden determined to strike in America."
Clinton knew we were at war and failed to stop the 1st World Trade Center attack. He would not have stopped the 2nd either. So what does that mean? The entire country was in a state of denial. Now only 1/2 the country is.
Read the damn memo. Everybody knew "Bin Laden was determined to strike America" He had done it before. There was nothing specific in this thing that hadn't been known for a decade. It was just the Democrats politicize 9/11. Democrats cry like a baby when Republicans politicize 9/11, but they don't miss a beat when they can. Thing is they have to lie and mislead to gain political advantage from it.
dudejcb wrote:Teh only reason I therew that out is becaseu I've had Spinner and others make the triumphant claim that "we haven't been attaced since 9/11." So that was a pre-emtive remark.
That's a fact. Nobody ever expected that we would go this long without another successful domestic terrorist attack. Don't worry dude, sooner or later you will get your wish and there will be another attack. Then you can triumphiantly claim success for your side.
dudejcb wrote:I agree that our economy has been built on air and all the "free-trade" and tax codes that reward exporting jobs is the problem. The R's have had control of the White house and both houses of Congress for 6.5 of the last 8 years and haven't done squat to remedy anything.
We IMPORT more and higher paying jobs than we export. If every country stopped "exporting" jobs we would lose out on the deal. This is a lie or just plain stupidity.
As I pointed out, we have lost 10's of millions of farm jobs. Where did they go? Automation. Same is true for manufacturing.
Since we have "lost" more jobs than there are people in the country, why isn't unemployment 100%?
We "export" and we "import" jobs. We come out ahead on the deal.
dudejcb wrote:No. Oil companies should be allowed to make a profit. But when they are this fabulously profitable I don't think they need extra incentives (via special tax breaks) to help them make ends meet.
I suppose how much they get taxed might be related to the type of work they do and the profitability of the enterprise.
Corporations should be just a responsible to pay taxes on their profits as ordinary people. A paper entity should not have more rights, or less responsibiities, than actual human citizens should it?
So you think higher taxes on AMERICAN corporations will help Americans? You do know you can only tax American corporations? This gives foreign corporations a competitive advantage.
How that hell can giving competitive advantages to foreign corporation ever benefit us? Please layout how making American corporations less profitable helps Americans. It will reduce salaries because their will be less jobs in America (supply and demand). It will reduce retirement income. Most of it comes from American corporations, either directly via pensions and retirement accounts or indirectly as taxes passed through via social security.
You don't get it that the corporations manipulate the idiotic politicians like Pelosi. They eliminate competitions by making the legal and environmental barriers to entry so great that a new corporation cannot get into the business. This is short-sighted as corporations tend to be. They are playing with fire and end up burning everything down. You see this in all heavily regulated industries. California energy crisis, Freddie & Fannie Mae, ... Let's hope it doesn't happen to the American oil industry. The existing companies have their protection, but the vultures are now circling. Obama is just waiting to rip the carcass apart.
Energy is a strategic industry. It is as essential as food. We need to reduce the financial burdens on the energy industry (less taxes and less regulation). Food, energy, heavy manufacturing, ... There are certain things we need to subsidize for national security reasons. Oil is without a doubt one of them.
dudejcb wrote:having had a couple of corporations, my experience is that they don't pay state income tax. The do pay federal income tax and state sales tax (if they're retail).
So the taxes didn't come out of your pocket? They just came out of some legal framework. You completely missed jaysweet3's point. A corporation is just a legal arrangement. All taxes are come from people either directly, such as out of the shareholders pockets, or indirectly out of the consumers pocket.
If we could actually get money from corporations, all we would need to do is create a bunch of them and then require they pay us money. It's the basic premise that money doesn't grow on trees and it doesn't grow in corporate board rooms either. Every last penny comes from a person somewhere.