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Postby Dajowi » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:29 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Check this out.

If it is true this may infuriate you.
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Postby semo88 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:44 pm

Oh gosh :eek: . Better vote for McCain.... :tongue: .

What a joke.
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Postby Redline29 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:56 pm

semo88 wrote:Oh gosh :eek: . Better vote for McCain.... :tongue: .

What a joke.


So if Obama is not a natural born citizen, that is OK with you?

As long as the ends justify the means...that is all that matters..that is the real joke.
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Postby semo88 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:09 pm

What is a joke (or at least worth laughing at) is how scared some of you conservatives seem to be with the election getting close, pulling out any negative video you can find, regardless of how obviously biased it may be. You’re a telling me that you seriously believe that Obama has been elected to numerous positions in government office, was nominated as our President, and is very close to becoming President, and he really isn’t a natural born citizen? Dang you guys are SMART! Why didn’t the Republican party think of this months ago? McCain could have just taken his place in the White House and a lot of money could’ve been saved on these campaigns. I do not associate myself with a particular political party, and completely biased idiocy like this is exactly why.

How many other President’s birth certificates have you seen? Is that a typical campaign move? “Hey, check this out, I was born here :thumbsup: .” I’ve also been told not to vote for Obama because he’s a Muslim. WRONG. Or that he just hates this country and doesn’t support our troops or our flag. Ridiculous. I’ll be glad when November is here, you folks will have to come up with something else to find videos about, like how Obama stole the election.
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Postby Redline29 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:10 pm

Be careful for you wish for...you just might get it. Before you question my intelligence, you might want to check your own.

Obama is dangerous. Wake up. All the proof you need to know has been posted on here, and you and a few others will just will not see it.
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Postby semo88 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:27 pm

I will agree to disagree on the “dangers” of Obama’s policies. That is not the issue I’m talking about here. I have no problem with being supportive of a certain political party or candidate. I have no problem with you all discussing why you think Obama’s policies are not as good as John McCain’s (although hearing “the world will end if Obama is elected” or “you’re just a liberal idiot if you agree with Obama”, and all the rest of the scare tactics and rhetoric gets really old). What I do have a problem with is people who are seemingly selling out their intelligence to support a candidate that most of you are admittedly not that fond of. If I see a clip of Obama saying something contradictory to what he has previously said or done, I will acknowledge it and have no problem doing so. I am not the biased one here. There is no need to post completely one-sided videos or NRA propaganda to try to convince me. I don’t know what the purpose of repeatedly posting garbage on here that, if it were about anything other than the Obama, you would probably be saying “man that’s a pretty stupid video”. Once again, I don’t mind a good debate about policy, or even about alleged hypocrisy by one candidate or another, but all the biased garbage gets so old.
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Postby Redline29 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:47 pm

The facts are facts. that is not biased. Spin gets old. itellicual dishonesty is even worse. That seems to be a big problem with a few people on here.
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Postby semo88 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:53 pm

Facts are indeed facts. Stick to them, and stick to issues, not a bunch of "we're about to lose this election" scare tactics.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:31 am

There are so many serious issues raised about Obama. If he wins, it will likely be much like the Clinton administration. An endless string of investigations, cover ups, cronies going to jail, etc. The one good thing is it's unlikely to be blue dress problems. Just typical Chicago corruptions and cover ups.

At first I was skeptical of the citizenship problem, but that was before I knew that his typical white grandmother was the Vice President of a bank. This explains how he lived his life of priveledge in Hawaii. Why he had a hippie-dippie mother. Obama is a very stereotypical rich white kid, that just happens to have an identity crisis because the father that abandoned him was black. His grandmother would have known it was bad if her grandson was not a U.S. citizen and probably had the influence to make it happen. Nobody would think it was a big deal to do this at the time. He was only a non-US citizen because of a technicality, but isn't that all the law is anyways.

Don't dismiss the power of this identity crisis. I had a friend that was very similar, except for the rich part. He joined the navy where he started hanging out with the black people. He got into Arseno, ... The problem was he had nothing in common. He was a small town northern white kid that just happened to have a black father that he never knew. He struggled in the Navy. Finished his 4 years and moved back home to his small rural lily white northern town and married a white woman.

Here's a good article form John Kass. He is the local writer that digs deepest into the Chicago corruption. This is a good explanation of what goes on in Chicago and why Obama would pal around with another rich white kid that is an unrepentant terrorist.
Daley reins in radicals — the Chicago Way
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-mk-bd-12-oct12,0,5393672.column

Another far fetched story that I think is an issue that may not go away easily. I read Obama's 2nd book and it was terrible. Apparently, his first book that propelled him to the national stage was wonderfully written. I can assure you his 2nd was not and apparently nothing else he ever wrote was well written. I need to get his 1st book and read it, but even though this sounds far fetched, with all we know, I don't think it is as far fetched as it sounds on the surface.
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The Tony Rezko stuff is not going to go away. His ties to all of the other corrupt Chicago politicians is not going to go away. His lies will all come to the forefront because this stuff does not go away. He will have a lot of associates that end up in jail. That's the Chicago way.
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Postby Pacific Fisher » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:14 am

The Boogeyman is coming. :eek:
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Postby matt87 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:31 am

SpinnerMan wrote: An endless string of investigations, cover ups, cronies going to jail, etc. T.

Sounds like the Bush administration, :rofl:
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Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:51 pm

SpinnerMan wrote: An endless string of investigations, cover ups, cronies going to jail, etc. T.

matt87 wrote:Sounds like the Bush administration, :rofl:
Which of the Bush cronies went to jail? I can't think of any. Scooter Libby is the only conviction on anything that I can think of during the entire 8 years. Ken Daley is a stretch to call a crony. I'm sure there are more, but the number is very small for a 2 term President. I'm sure Fisher or Dude can refresh my memory.

Here are a few more names that will likely be investigated during the next 4 years. At least as closely tied to Obama as Ken Lay was.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/how_close_are_raines_and_obama.html
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Postby matt87 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:24 pm

hey buddy there were three parts to that comment of yours. There may not be a long list of cronies going to jail but the Bush Administration has had more than its fair share of investigations and cover ups. I'm not trying to get into a stupid argument with you, I just thought I'd see if anyone else sees the humor in such a statement. It will be a difficult task for any new administration to make as many mistakes as this current one has.
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Postby Redline29 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:10 pm

Spinner...1
Matt87...0
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Postby matt87 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:33 pm

Redline29 wrote:Spinner...1
Matt87...0

haha fantastic
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Postby Rat Creek » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:54 am

Matt,

Details are very important when you cast the wide net. I always hear people say these things, but when pressed, they fall back on Bush's oil buddies, Haliburton, WMDs, etc. Never a detail.
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Postby dudejcb » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:45 pm

very scary innuendo's... not!

grow some nards, man up, and quit with the lame crap... "he's a terrorist" "he's a muslim" "He's a socialist" "he kills babies" "he'll take our guns away" "he'll steal from the poor and give the poorer"

Clearly, he's already robbed you of common sense...or did someone else do that? THE RNC DID IT! THE NRA DID IT! RUSH LIMBAUGH DID IT... along with Sean hannity and the rest of the fear mongering right. What is it they fear? Oh yeah, not being in power. Bummer deal. Like I said, grow nards, man up, endure with dignity and don't whine. the pendulum will swing the other way again and all will be right with your world. (it's a pun!)
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Postby DuckinFool » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:25 pm

Here is a copy of the original Birth Certificate submitted by the Obama Campaign as proof he is a natural born citizen. Problem is you make a copy of this and insert your name and family info then see how far you can get by flashing this.

It is a very nice computer generated document that is in excellent shape to be 47 years old. Problem is since I am around the same age and also have a copy of my birth certificate I find it strange that my birth certificate was generated on a typewriter while Obama' very much appears to me to have been generated by a modern computer in 1961. :rolleyes:

This makes me wonder why he is really in Hawaii. :yes: I strongly suspect negotiating with a big hunk of campaign money to get an original Birth Certificate in a hurry. :yes: This reeks of Chicago Political shenanigan. :hammer:




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Postby DuckinFool » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:00 am

semo88 wrote:What is a joke (or at least worth laughing at) is how scared some of you conservatives seem to be with the election getting close, pulling out any negative video you can find, regardless of how obviously biased it may be. You’re a telling me that you seriously believe that Obama has been elected to numerous positions in government office, was nominated as our President, and is very close to becoming President, and he really isn’t a natural born citizen? Dang you guys are SMART! Why didn’t the Republican party think of this months ago? McCain could have just taken his place in the White House and a lot of money could’ve been saved on these campaigns. I do not associate myself with a particular political party, and completely biased idiocy like this is exactly why.

How many other President’s birth certificates have you seen? Is that a typical campaign move? “Hey, check this out, I was born here :thumbsup: .” I’ve also been told not to vote for Obama because he’s a Muslim. WRONG. Or that he just hates this country and doesn’t support our troops or our flag. Ridiculous. I’ll be glad when November is here, you folks will have to come up with something else to find videos about, like how Obama stole the election.


Actually it is a Democrat who has filed suit over this and has brought this issue to the forefront. :yes:
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Postby GroundSwatter » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:27 am

Here is a copy of the original Birth Certificate submitted by the Obama Campaign as proof he is a natural born citizen. Problem is you make a copy of this and insert your name and family info then see how far you can get by flashing this.


I hate defending Obama, but this all depends on how Hawaii does their birth certificates. If you asked for my Birth Certificate it would look brand new, why, b/c I got a replacement from the state of texas.

In texas you just stroll down to the local court house, show them the proper ID, then they print it off for you and either put a seal or sign it for you.

Although the link you have does make it look a little cartoony, mostly b/c if you scanned it I don't think it would look that good. Depending on how they do things in hawaii, if he got a replacement it could be brand new.

semo88 wrote:How many other President’s birth certificates have you seen? Is that a typical campaign move?


Apparently so, they asked for McCain's birth certificate, they asked for McCain's medical records, I even saw a report yesterday that they asked for Palin's medical records. I only think its a campaign move if something doesn't add up and you can catch them in a lie.
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Postby xj76prq » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:16 pm

Redline: Obama is dangerous? Really? Unlike the retard of the last eight years? Or a pentacostal who is convinced she will see jesus in her lifetime? Yeah, that's not dangerous. Excuse me if I'm a little concerned about the God addicts triggering rapture because of their belief in superstition. I guess I can understand the infatuation with "real" America and "small town" values after the destruction of our country by the folks you voted for the last two times. When you've had a retard the last 8 years I guess an "average" person is a step up. This is all just noise trying to cover up the real objections. Liberals are to blame for all the things that are wrong. Just like the bullies in school, the pubs try to bring down the exceptional students because they trigger fear and insecurity. Talk down, not up so noone is uncomfortable. Lower the bar don't raise it etc etc. The pubs can't stand the fact that they have been such complete and abject failures for the last 8 years and now try to proclaim that it would be bad for the Dems to control all branches of government. Too funny. Poor, poor, pubs, thou doth protest too much, though there wasn't a peep about this while you were in control.
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Postby Rat Creek » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:43 pm

According to XJ…

*Bush is a retard.
*Christians are God addicts believing in superstition.
*Republicans have an infatuation with “small town values” I am guessing that wasn't a compliment.
*Republicans are bullies bringing down the exceptional (liberals)

Left wing tolerance on display. I love it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DuckinFool » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:06 pm

Birth Certificates in the early 60's were typed. So how does a copy of an original 60's Birth Certificate come out looking like it was produced on a computer this week? :huh:
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Postby GroundSwatter » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:07 pm

rat creek wrote:According to XJ…

*Bush is a retard.
*Christians are God addicts believing in superstition.
*Republicans have an infatuation with “small town values” I am guessing that wasn't a compliment.
*Republicans are bullies bringing down the exceptional (liberals)


Thank you XJ, all of those are brilliant points as to why Obama is the better candidate. Thanks you for having such a well structured argument.

Also, why is it that you have been a part of this forum for a month, only made 9 posts, and all of which are in the controversial issues forum? I have yet to see you post anything under any other topic.

You would think that somebody who hunts, that joined a duck hunting forum, would probably start out in the duck hunting sections of it. Or is just common practice for you to join some random forum with a political debate, type in an anonymous user name, and flame away at people you feel to be inferior to yourself?

But what do I know? I'm a retarded christian that some how holds on to my superstition and small town values all while trying to bring down the exceptional. :thumbsup:
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Postby DuckinFool » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:16 pm

xj76prq wrote:Redline: Obama is dangerous? Really? Unlike the retard of the last eight years? Or a pentacostal who is convinced she will see jesus in her lifetime? Yeah, that's not dangerous. Excuse me if I'm a little concerned about the God addicts triggering rapture because of their belief in superstition. I guess I can understand the infatuation with "real" America and "small town" values after the destruction of our country by the folks you voted for the last two times. When you've had a retard the last 8 years I guess an "average" person is a step up. This is all just noise trying to cover up the real objections. Liberals are to blame for all the things that are wrong. Just like the bullies in school, the pubs try to bring down the exceptional students because they trigger fear and insecurity. Talk down, not up so noone is uncomfortable. Lower the bar don't raise it etc etc. The pubs can't stand the fact that they have been such complete and abject failures for the last 8 years and now try to proclaim that it would be bad for the Dems to control all branches of government. Too funny. Poor, poor, pubs, thou doth protest too much, though there wasn't a peep about this while you were in control.


Do you also bash homo's? :yes:
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