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Postby jrockncash » Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:28 am

No way never get tired of Dudes stuff. You never know when hes going to call spinner a douche. :rofl: Or reference some obscure liberal book he just read. I disagree with almost everything he says politically but he says it with Panache'.

Do you libbies ever get tired of being so SOFT? Good God it must be horrible waiting for your next manicure knowing that people are looking at your cuticles in the shape there in. :rofl:

Now on to normal people. Redline, Mac, and as usual Spinner= good. No sense in arguing with some folks. The messiah is here, Man! Wake up. You can not make sense of things with some people.

Its just like ( searching for good analogy) Religion, try and talk to a person of a certain religion that is devoid of logic.(Dude knows the one I have in mind) And they refer back to well rehearsed mantras that make them feel better.

Fact: the guy has lied to your face already.
Example: "No earmarks or pork in this bill"

Is that cause for impeachment or freaking out? No. But it sure gives you some colors to start painting a picture.
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Postby MacMan » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:06 am

SnoGeez wrote:MacMan, I would prefer to not wait and see either, however, I don't know enough about historical economics. So I really have no choice. I'm going to watch that video, as soon as I find.......3 AND A HALF HOURS! Might have to watch it in pieces, but looks to be interesting.

Spinner, the day you actually want to make me president will be a cold day in hell. Stop getting my hopes up. Hell, every president has been misinformed at some point, some more than others. Does this mean you believe all of our nations presidents to be ignorant and dumb? A person can only take what people tell them and make a decision about what holds true. For any president, this is especially difficult since you have people whispering in your ear 24/7. Bush wasn't great, and made some serious public speaking follies, but I gotta give hime credit because he (like Obama) had to make some difficult choices. Obviously, ones that not everyone will like. Its gonna be a long term if we start arguing over every lie, fib, or whatever the media percieves to be.

Redline29, I was considering making a similar statement in my earlier post about us getting off topic. As much as we fight and argue on here, I like to hear what everybody has to say. I would rather not deter rrman from contributing, even if you don't like him. Also, since our president hasn't even had a month in office I find it hard to not give him a chance. And while I wasn't always a huge fan of Bush, I was never of that crowd.

Dude, lets play nice, I get eye cramps from your stuff too.


Great Sno - it will really open your eyes to what's behind our present economic situation. I had to watch it in segments - you won't look at party politics the same again. . . I watched it when I could - It'd be cool to download and burn to a DVD. . .
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Postby dudejcb » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:32 am

Redline29 wrote: Have you read the communist manifesto? And what the hell are you talking about Hitler for??? You drinking again? Dude...everything has been said on here, everything you need to know. You and rman are just sleeping thru it.

You are part of the "Bush lied people died" crowd.
However when some calls Obama on his blantant LIES..."oh...he is not lying...he is just..welll I don't know...just give him a chance."

No, but I have read The Curtis Creek Manifesto.

I mentined Hitler cuz everyone knows the Germans were very efficient and "the trains were all on time."

The "Bush Lied People Died" stuff didn't occur till after it became apparent that he had in fact lied, and of course people did die as a result. Has Obama siad wht he thinks (that's not alie) or has he produced false evidence to sell his ideas? Not that I'm aware of, and it's premature to rush to judgement just yet.

SnoGeez, I know I cause eye cramps too and almost put in something about being guilty of it too, but thought, why not give 'em a free shot at me for calling the kettle black... I can take it. I'm no softie (Jrock)... compassionate conservative.

Kudo's to Spinner. After the jabs (with a smile on my face you cannot see) he has cut back some on the verbiage, and always has the really gay emoticons ready to go. But I understand and appreciate it ... he's believes passionately, albeit subbornly wrongheaded :tongue: , and has things to share. So am/do I. I know you won't believe this but I sometimes learn stuff from him... and others) (psst...keep that on the down-low.)

That said I do succumb to nasty smart-assedness and let out a: douche, twit, nimrod, dullard, pinhead, shat-for-brains now and then. It's cheap, but it feels good and goes a long ways (for me).

Over my word-limit. Out!
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Postby DuckinFool » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:22 pm

Obama said:
"Under my administration we will have total transparency. Under the previous administration there was far too much haste in pushing legislation through too quickly. Under my administration no bill will be voted into law without being under review in easy to understand language by all citizens for at least 48 hours."

Liar ...liar.....we see how that worked for the ramming of the spendulus bill down our throats when the House had less than 9 hours from the time the final House version was printed until it was put up for a vote. Why is the Obama administration refusing to give an explanation of why they are planning to move control of the census from the Commerce Dept. to control by the White House? Transparency huh?


Obama said:

"We will bring ethics to Wahington under an Obama administration."

Liar..liar......just how many tax cheats does this guy really associate with?

Obama said:

"There is no place in my administration for lobbyists or anyone with ties to lobbyists."

Liar..liar......Tax cheat Geithner hired Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson to be his Chief of Staff.

Again I say Liar..liar...pants on fire. :yes:
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Postby MacMan » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:03 pm

GREAT POST! Maybe we should continue on with a permanent thread called liar liar:

Obama says: No more earmarks for Gov't money.

Nancy Pelosi is concerned about a mouse in marshes of San Francisco. . . she gets over 20 million. . . to save the damn rodent.

Liar Liar

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Postby magnum » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:25 pm

It does seem to me that Obama just tells the people what he thinks they would like to hear. No real leader does that it just breeds chaos. I sure hope he turns out better that things appear to be. :no:
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Postby Brydog » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:59 pm

magnum wrote:It does seem to me that Obama just tells the people what he thinks they would like to hear. No real leader does that it just breeds chaos. I sure hope he turns out better that things appear to be. :no:


Only time will tell...

According to all the "R's" on this site, Obama's out to destroy the country and perhaps the world. Perhaps they'll collectively put a real plan together that will salvage whats left of the economy and the country and submit it to the "Messiah", you know,,, "The Anointed One" for consideration and save us all from "Marxism" and "Socialism".

What I see hear at DHC (Democrat Haters Club) is a bunch of speculating, whining, crying, sniveling, disgruntled Republicans, piss'n and moan'n because Grandpa McCain was too incompetent to beat out an inexperienced black man.

You "R's" had your chance,,, and look whats happened to this country.

If (by chance) Obama gets a handle on this economic crisis and turns things around to where America can once again prosper, I think these same "R's" will continue to piss and moan because their money is green.
.... and if only a few thousand jobs appear from this "Spendulus" bill",,, it's a hell of a lot better than loosing a few thousand more under the watch of the Republicans!!!ImageImageImageImageImage
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Postby DuckinFool » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:04 pm

So you are defending the liar Bry? :yes: :thumbsup:

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Postby Brydog » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:20 pm

I wouldn't exactly call it defending him. He's simply trying to get the ball rolling with NO help coming from the Pub's. Someone has to do something beside stall !
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Postby DuckinFool » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:28 pm

Brydog wrote:I wouldn't exactly call it defending him. He's simply trying to get the ball rolling with NO help coming from the Pub's. Someone has to do something beside stall !


he got 3 of them to help didn't he? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Obama said:

"We will work with the Republicans to find bipartisan solutions."


Pelosi to the House Republicans: "We won the election we will write the bill."


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Postby Brydog » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:36 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: You're a funny man DF...... :tongue:
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Postby dudejcb » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:40 pm

Brydog wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: You're a funny man DF...... :tongue:
are tyou thinking "funny ha ha" or funny "wierd?"
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Postby DuckinFool » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:01 pm

Gonna be a long 4 years for the Obama Apologists. :yes:
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Postby magnum » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:01 am

Lets just hope we can survive it. I can't believe he was apologetic to the muslums and his wife our new first lady said she couldn't understand why america needed guns. :huh:
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Postby dudejcb » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:49 am

I don't think he is being apologetic to Muslims. He is being pragmatic and it is only another strategy based on what he thinks serves US best.

I didn't hear the First Lady's comment on guns, but my impression based on what you posted is: she doesn't understand why people feel the need to have guns to protect themselves from our government. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt she doesn't understand America's sporting heritage.
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Postby magnum » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:14 pm

Don't try to defend him. He's put himself in the position that he is in and shouldn't be "spitting on" the lives our countrymen lost to have a free country.
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Postby MacMan » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:00 am

What about the changes to our current health care system that was inserted into HR1 without any debate and/or input from the Rep's. . .
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The economic stimulus bill will threaten the lives, security and privacy of American citizens, says Citizens' Council on Health Care (CCHC).

"Government officials want to define "effective" care and make sure patients don't get anything else. If a patient wants or needs care that is not government certified as "effective," it will not likely be available. This will be the end of individualized patient care and the beginning of government-endorsed health care rationing based on politics and the agendas of special interests," she adds.

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In other words you will have lawyers and politicians deciding your medical treatment not your Doctor. I suppose it will be free health care. . . We have the best medical system in the world - it's only broken for poor folks that cannot afford insurance.

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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:05 am

So when is Obama going to change his website.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/
Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.
Oh' yeah. This is an "emergency" and there isn't even time for the Congressmen to read it, but not such an emergency that he needs to rush back from vacation to sign it the moment it is passed :huh:

How about this one.
Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama's Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.
I don't think I'll hold my breath until a list shows up. It doesn't require an act of Congress to put together this list. Obama can post the list on his website any time he likes. Oh yeah, there was no pork or earmarks in the entire $800B of emergency stimulus :rofl:

Is there anything in his Ethics Plan that he hasn't yet violated in spirit if not in fact? He may set a new Presidential record for breaking campaign promises.
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Postby MacMan » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:26 am

Come on guys. . . I felt like Nancy's salt marsh mouse was truly an emergency!!!

Especially since it's been endangered from 1970 to present day.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed the salt marsh harvest mouse as endangered in 1970 (Suisun Eco Workgroup, 2004). The U.S.F.W.S. is responsible for the management/recovery, listing and law enforcement/protection of the species. Department of Defense, D.O.D., is responsible for the law enforcement/protection of the species with applicable state and federal laws on public land under their control (U.S.F.W.S. Recovery Plan, 1984). The State of California listed the mouse as endangered in 1971. Therefore, the species has the endangered status wherever it is found, including the state of California. Critical habitat for the species has not been designated. A recovery plan for the species was prepared in 1984 and is currently under revision (Suisun Eco Workgroup, 2004). The species is also protected by the Lacey Act, which makes it unlawful to import, export, transport, sell, receive, acquire or purchase any wild animal (alive or dead, including parts, products, eggs or offspring) (U.S.F.W.S., 1984).
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Postby GroundSwatter » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:28 am

Spin,

If it makes you feel any better, he's moving everything over to whitehouse.gov, where he actually removed the ethics link and states it needs to be updated.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/ethics/
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Postby DuckinFool » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:42 pm

Obama said:

"There are no earmarks in this bill."

Liar...liar.....

$8 billion smackeroos for a high speed train from California to Vegas. And who is the biggest reward recepient from this pork in Congress? None other than Sen Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

Liar..liar...pants on fire !!! :yes: :thumbsup:
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Postby DuckinFool » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:50 pm

GroundSwatter wrote:Spin,

If it makes you feel any better, he's moving everything over to whitehouse.gov, where he actually removed the ethics link and states it needs to be updated.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/ethics/


Updated is an understatement.......it will be more like overhauled. :rofl:

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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:19 pm

GroundSwatter wrote:Spin,

If it makes you feel any better, he's moving everything over to whitehouse.gov, where he actually removed the ethics link and states it needs to be updated.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/ethics/
It doesn't matter what he said then, now, or tomorrow. He will do whatever he wants to do. He will say whatever he wants to say. What he said or did yesterday will have no bearing on what he says or does today or tomorrow.

I'm sure he will rewrite his plans over and over and over again, but I wouldn't bank on any of his promise whether they are written or spoken because he cannot be counted on to keep his promises.

Do you believe he is honestly making his best effort to keep his promises? I see no indication that he is even trying to keep the spirit of his promises. Look at my two examples. The spirit of these promise require very little effort on his part and they went right out the window. The only logical conclusion is that they were just BS from the start and never serious plans that he intended to follow.

I will feel better when I see public opinion collapse for this lying douche.

It's slipping, but it has far from collapsed.

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Postby GroundSwatter » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:58 pm

Spin,

As I'm sure you know I was being sarcastic. I too am waiting for people to wake up and see that Obama is just telling them what they want to hear and then running off to do God knows what.

With my customers, I find it real easy to sell things if I just tell them what they want to hear, but the customers that come back to me are the ones I'm honest with. Even the customers that don't come back the next time they need something, they at least respect me.

I knew Obama was an outright liar from the get go, most politicians are. It was only re-affirmed when in one of the presidential debates, when they asked the question, "with the economy like it is, what plans do you think you will have to cut back on or cut out." (paraphrase). And he said he wouldn't have to get rid of anything.

Oh well, he is what the people wanted. Someone who thinks his fecal matter doesn't stink.
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Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:52 pm

I was scanning through all the posts from the weekend and saw the response to me and just hit quote and typed. I actually thought it was a serious, but odd response. Obviously, I knew you weren't serious. I just missed that it was you. :stouff:
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