buckwild wrote:Old post, but my pup turns 1 next week. Her mother is from Kellogg bloodlines. She is doing very well for me. I had her off for 3 months and the trainer was very impressed with her as well. How much of that has to to with Kellogg bloodlines I am not sure, Either way I am lucky to have her.
verg wrote:A little history: I was personal friends with Old Mayo Kellogg. He ran a kennel here in my state near Madison, SD. He is one of the forefathers of the pointing lab. My father and I got to know him very well in 80s-90's as my father ran a printing business and we would trade pups for his printing of letterheads, brochures etc. He was a wonderful man and forgot more about dogs than most people on this site know. These years however, weren't huge into trials and test etc like it has exploded as of late. None of his dogs had any titles etc. Although numerous ones won hunting competitions. One of my dogs is a half kellogg dog now and my father still has one of his last full blood dogs. They point like a setter, naturally retrieve like crazy, are great looking old style labs and are the nicest dogs you can find. Old Mayo died about 10-12yrs ago or so? His kennel went with it. I have several of his articles that he wrote for outdoorlife and other hunting mags. He was famous for being a kind of a dog whisperer and one of few who bred and knew how to train pointing labs. Today, he would probably be bashed because it seems that most dog people bash a lab that isn't loaded with titles. I have lots of experience with dogs and will stand by this no matter what..Kelloggs dogs were OUTSTANDING animals. He always told me he bred them to be healthy, family members that would hunt like crazy. That is what they did. I don't think you'll find many with true kellogg lines. Might have some in pedigree yrs back but nothing of recent so don't listen to the phrase
Interestingly, I owned a black male Labrador out of the Mayo Kellog line having aquired him in May of 1983. At no time did I ever see any form of a natural "pointing" behavior exhibited by that dog. I trained him personally using methods advocated by Richard Wolters (that being a very popular method of the day). The dog was a beautiful looking Lab, wasa great gundog on waterfowl, pheasant, and woodcock, and lived to be 14 years old with relatively few real health related problems. As I recall, I paid around $600 for him at the time and we are speaking over 30 years ago. On top of all that, he lived in our home and was a wonderful family companion dog.
Maybe the fact that he was born on St.Patrick's Day was a good omen.
As for buying a dog without health clearances and papers for the cause of saving money? I say run and run fast. Money saved now could turn into a financial black hole in veterinary costs and an emotional drain brought on by health related problems that can be avoided by going with lines having the right stuff genetically and proper health clearances. Do yourself and the breed a favor, in general, avoid "backyard breeders" and even more so those that will not provide health clearances and registered litters. JMHO.
Good luck in your search mate, there are plently of great breeders out there with super lines. More money paid up front now will likely be your better investment all the way around.