Jesse, Such a long come back I hope my using bold type underlined will make it easier to follow my thinking
Jesse Jaymes wrote:Don-
Both passed VGPs. Then we may assume the parents are of a stable nature. To pass the VGP a dog needs to show some ability in self-controlWhat I don't think is that any DD has EVER had a flaw or chink in their armor....impossible to have any problem with a Super Dog!Have no idea what your last comment is saying, please explainSarcasm the DD seems infallible as a breed. Successful in 3 year old blood tracks, BTR a sasquatch and swim in liquid nitrogen. With all of the work involved in breeding and testing and German standards I was made to believe that it was impossible to have any complications[color=#FF0000][/color]
Like this OCD issue....no breeder admits its real, but several PM in private that their dog experienced it. Tough luck but I guess that's why breeders x-ray dogs. Would be nice if everything was 100% fool proof. Again, sorry for your bad luck. I would hope you did not have thoughts of breeding your pup was never interested in going thru breeding the dog regardless of his ability. Just not for me. Certainly would not consider it now. Even at this stage of the game I have a loyalty to the breed
I agree being heavy handed probably not the answer. Simply stated that I've been close, yet refrained. I didnt intend to intro E Collar til this winter/early spring-closer to the year mark. Your option. I e-collar at about 4-5 months oldObviously missing hunting season. I think some things would help. Simply running and cutting loose would help. Yes, I think so tooJust can't do it yet. Agree
As far as my level of being an owner....I do not think I ever gave in to whining vs kennel release. I may be novice but I'm not that green. Is it possible how you treat your dog could be a causing agent for the anxiety he displays? I'm asking, regarding your comments about your family below, if you have thought of that possibility? Sure, but that was the question at the onset. What or how to change
I started him off in a large 10X10' kennel inside my garage. I didnt want a young pup digging under while an owner was away. For the first few weeks, we put our other dogs in the garage, but outside the enclosure while we were away. Intention to decrease stress of being isolated. When I returned, I would make him sit and stay while kennel opened until I released him. OK, what do you do now when he has a melt down in the kennel and yoru doing your chores? Not much. Mentioned I verbally scolded him one episode. Returned shortly after he was quiet. Verbal praise.
If I've F'd up anywhere it would be in two areas;
Possibly being too excited upon return. Too excited on return? How would that be a problem and who is excited? Possibly me being too excited. Announcing "How are my puppies today?? Or bending over and greeting the dogs allowing them to lick my face or hands. I try not to get the dogs too amped up. But all 4 enjoy when I come home. They enjoy when my wife arrives also I do enjoy my dogs and I invest in the dogs partially for the same reasons we all do- the unconditional appreciation. He is excited to see me every time. As is my other dog, who is 11. But the 11 yr old dog was always more aloof from the get go. Not much of a snuggler. Independent. Always did his own things. This dog ran off for years. Would always come home, but on his time, when he decided. This is a Cattle Dog. A male. Incredibly tough. Dogs, like kids, all have their own personality Which begs the question, what is the personality of this DD puppy and how he acts or reacts
This DD pup was always a snuggler from day 1. Both mine too but then so is my lab. Always attached. If I ran him with the "pack" he was always ranging and bounding. Sounds pretty normal at 8 months If its just he and I, he was a Beggars Lice stick tight. He is 8 months old and he should be looking to you as his leader and being more confident with you. That said, he should be increasing his distances but not his awarness of where you are in the field I feel we were increasing appropriately in this area, but again, he's been lame and "under glass" since Sept 2nd. Took a while to diagnose or get a clue it wasn't a Bone Bruise. Two different Vets. Then a 3 week wait to get appt at University. So he's aged nearly 3 months since having him out, off lead, and free Not dumb. Not saying he doesn't seem to have hunt. He is 8 months old. He should be showing good hunt but he is young But I don't see his confidence the same. How do you plan to encourage his confidence level? Intended to hunt any/everything from Sept 1st on....we have Forest Grouse and other furred game very much like you that open early. So it would have been field time out away on "virgin" territory. And I did have him out in other settings not at home. Various lakes and Forest Service lands as well. If you recall, I was concerned over him being a very hesitant swimmer. Took him a long time to gain confidence to do it. He ran back to me for safety at every new sound or spook. I live on some acreage in a rural setting. So it was not hard to get him into the "wilds" daily. Getting him in the same "wilds" in your backyard is not his "wilds" after the first couple outings. Get him introduced to all things in your life. Expose him to everything you do in your life as much as possible I do not feel I've failed in this area. I've not had him in dog parks with other dogs, but he's been around other DDs not his litter mates I would have like to have gotten into birds and more hunting scenarios, but again, he went down at 6 months. Just about when I was ready to really kick off the next stage in Bigger Dog training. Meaning, he is not a suburb dog that gets taken to the country to run and be exposed 2-3 per week.
If this was a F'up, then what was a solution at this point?
The other area is that I wanted to be the owner. You are his owner, so is your wife, as is your children. I want your dog to be in your pack and know his place is below you, your wife and all your kids. If that does not happen now then we will be hearing from you when he is 3 and taking charge of his place in the home. I did to out of my way to be the only one that fed him. I can't imagine why your would feel this would be a benefit to your dog My wife did about 25% when I would work odd shifts. I prefered that my boys or wife not get down on the floor with him to rough house or snuggle. Never would do this in my house. Kids and puppies go together like white on rice. Why would this benefit your dog or you. You ask why my dog has anxiety problems??? Why would you ask that? Sarcasm on your part? To paint a better picture, I have two step boys, 14 and 16, who live with me. They are not interested in hunting much. Unless you can guarantee them a deer or duck shooting within a 3-5 minute window. They are plugged in to an Xbox 24/7. Bothers me to no end. Does not bother Mom. I love their mom immensely. So we agree to disagree and leave it. The boys could really care less about the puppy. They will let him out when I ask them. Feed him if I leave them a note, and then text them to remind them. Other than that, neither really interact with the other. They are permitted to interact whenever they want with the pup. I simply asked them not to get down onto the floor with him at the 10-12 week stage. And not to pick him up. Mrs picked him up all of the time. Read this in Training the Versatile Hunting Dog I believe. Seems that it's the one decision that nobody is comfortable with.
The dogs are feed and then made to be released to their bowls. All 4 dogs. Why did I prefer to feed?? He's my dog. Nobody else is going to hunt with him. Nobody else will every request him to Heel. Nobody else will ever be up his ass if he chooses to do a Victory Lap with a bird and play Keep Away. I fully believe in a Hierarchy-with household humans at the top, and dogs below. I feel that I am more educated than most on Dominance Issues and how subtle things a dog may do are actually a pretty disrespectful Dominance ploy by the dog. The Cattle Dog is a major Dominance player and it took me a long time to realize this. Never aggressive with me, but did many things throughout his life to show Dominance.
I did fully want an attached dog. Attached to what? What are you thinking of when you say you want him attached? I wanted a running buddy and companion for all seasons. Road trips, shed hunting, spring bears, fishing, etc. Maybe I understand. Do you feel your dog will not want to run or hunt with you if he plays with your kids or snuggles with your wife? If that's what your thinking then I suggest your mis-guided. Change that thought. Pretty much what I am trying to describe. To some degree. Cooperation is a scored area. I'd like us to be a Team. A great one. I did not want another dog that was aloof and concerned of little other than himself or filling his belly. A dog that hunts for me, not for him. A dog that wants to please me, not simply succeed to avoid punishment.
The pup has been stellar in those areas.
But I'd like to do my own thing at some point and not have to be attached 24/7. I'm hoping that not having him crated for such an extended period of time will help. As well as scrubbing off some energy.
So....is there a consensus on if I can reprimand and if so, when and how? What are you going to reprimand he for? Being anxious? Howling and eating a crate pad. Carrying on while he is alone. Not being patient and relaxed.
I've been already attempting to Down him with a Stay while in the house when I leave the room. I return in a minute or two and praise him. I've not really reprimanded hi for carrying on when I leave the home to work outdoors. I did return once, verbally scold him and added No and Quiet. Have you ever tried doing or saying nothing at all when he acts out in the crate and "letting him cry himself to sleep" so to speak? That's the thing, I don't think he every Burns Out and goes to sleep. From what I've read and understand, most dogs will tire and burn out.....dogs with separation anxiety can not handle it and will even injure themselves eathing thru crates, ripping off nails digging, etc. I departed. He was quiet for two minutes, so I returned. I'd guess that's the utmost in baby step. Monday is quickly approaching. Both Mrs and I will work. He will be crated again. So he will be crated while no one is home........so, if he howls all day and no buddy heard him, was he really howling? I would not give him another mat. I've not given him any additional mats since For the last two weeks since the surgery, I was able to work a Swing shift. So I would crate at 1pm. Mrs would uncrate by 6pm.
You did not reply when I asked you if your had been in contact with your breeder and get his input? He knows the parents and he also has contact with littermate owners.