berudd wrote:Not sure there's enough info about the dog, the trainer or the situation to say for sure. And I've never sent a dog to a trainer so I lack that insight. But I wonder what things they are trying to teach her to do that she not picking up on and if those are things you'll actually need your dog to do. Are you planning to run her in trials and they are prepping her for that? OK, maybe that won't be her bag. If your plan is just to hunt her are you sure she needs the skills they are trying to teach. I'm no expert but simply from reading what is required from some levels of trials and hunt tests I think you can have a great hunter without that level of training. Basic obedience, steady to shot, mark the bird, return it to hand gets you through most hunting situations. Some basic casting over and back is good and if the dog had a good nose she'll figure it out. My dog is just over a year and a half old and I've sent her into some dense cover to find birds. The nose went to work and she came out with the birds. I'll take that over the high level (and very impressive) skills that trails dogs are capable off. The FF stuff is something that is always debated I guess. I tried, briefly, with my first lab and could not get the hang of it. But she quickly showed me that she planned to pick up anything I present her with so I figured why bother. I few sessions of 'HOLD' and she understand what I wanted. I tried harder with my current Lab. I'm not sure if it helped or not. She tends to hold a little loosely which I am sure FF is supposed to fix so we do a little more practice in that regard but again she has never refused to pick up a bird or dummy. Her first dove was an odd experience because it was very much alive and she dropped it twice but did pick it up each time on command.
So I guess what I'm is I'd just re-evaluate the situation and make sure it is right for me and the dog. Do I want or need what they trainer is trying to provide? Also, he may be a great trainer but maybe he's the wrong one for her.
Yeah, I havent got to talk details yet. I am deployed currently, and we only correspond through email. No, I don't plan to hunt trials, I would maybe have done some just to help keep her sharp in the off season, but definitely not a priority, and he knows that. We thoroughly talked through my goals for her, situations that I would hunt her in, etc.
Yeah, there is a good chance she will still be huntable if she doesn't complete FF. I personally would it it to be, and he so highly recommends it. I do not ever plan on getting rid of her or trading her in, but you always have visions of tour dog being an awesome dog, not just mediocre.
She has been there for going on 3 months. She is about 9.5 months right now. I did most of her initial training up until she was 6 months. She was very good on OB except for heel, I hadn't quite mastered it. She was gun broke, and we did lots of water and land retrieves. She was always a hard charger both in and out. He was going to finish OB, then he CC, which he said she took just fine. and he started FF the end of Oct. She went in the very end of Aug. So he still has some time to try to break her before I get back. We will see.