Max4Holly wrote:My dog loves water, and will retrieve all day long...until you put in obedience and making sure she stays steady...then after 3 retrieves she's done and looses drive...some have it and some don't, you don't know until you try
I disagree with losing drive. IMO Drive is somewhat genetic but more so affected by the handler/trainer. Say on that second retrieve you reward her with a small 5 calorie milk bone. I bet she will retrieve again and again as long as she thinks a reward is waiting. So just every two or three retrieves give her a treat. The drive will develop and the treats can taper off.
I think all dogs will run until they physically are exhausted with the proper handling and rewards. Physical fitness is also a major factor. It just depends on what reward your dog personally responds the best to. If the dog is force-fetched its drive is get the target in my mouth asap because I don't want my ear hurting. Others may just absolutely love pleasing their master and will try to at all costs.
Another way to develop drive is to stop the training short of the dog wanting to stop. Their last memory will be wanting to go one more time and therefore drive is developed. I always stop training way before my boy gets tired. 10-15 minutes twice to three times a day of hard running, swimming, blinds, ect. is all mine needs. Keep in mind with a dog frequency is much more important and effective than duration.
Long story short drive comes many ways you just have to find the way that best suits your dog.