Irishwhistler wrote:MNGunner wrote:goodkarmarising wrote:MNGunner wrote:Luckily, hunting breeds have test/competitions that reward intelligence, drive, willingness to please, scenting ability, athleticism, etc. The Hunt tests and Field Trials, etc.
That said, I don't like the proliferation of breeding designer traits such as "silver" or "fox red" labs.
Yeah because we all know fox reds won't hunt.
Didn't say that-- there are mutts from the pound that will hunt. Most "red" and "silvers" are bred primarily for their coat color and secondarily (if at all) for their abilities. You don't have that problem with say, a black lab.
Just as the show ring has ruined other breeds where they are bred solely for looks.
A fox red is simply a color phase of the yellow Lbrador, much like there are various color phases of chocolate Labs ranging from a liver color to very dark brown, still Labs and not really so called "designer Labs" like the so called silver which is likely to be a mix of Lab and Weimaraner (NOT a purebred Labrador).
Fox reds from good Labrador field bloodlines can make very capable gundogs.
I know everything you said. I also know that many (not all) of these dogs are being bred primarily for these color phases. They demand a higher price as a result. Again, something not true of black labs for instance.
Intersting, Here's a list of the dogs in the Retriever Hall of Fame:
http://www.birddogfoundation.com/retrie ... _of_fa.htm
Of the 130 dogs
83.8% Black Labs
3.8% Chocolate Labs
3.1% Yellow Labs
9.2% Golden Retrivers