rivercountry wrote:Thanks for all the reply's guys. I have been to several test so far to spectate and the two when I ran him in seasoned when I ran him in seasoned. Most of the test I saw I feel really sure he could pass and a couple that I didn't think any dog could pass that were set up by a Grand judge. I honestly watch 19 dogs run the first series which was water and 17 fail to even finish the series. That was a super tough test and what few dogs did pass it were fine retrievers, a mediocre dog would have never passed that test. He really is a nice dog and a far better dog than I am a handler so I believe he will do well. To be honest in the beginning planned on and promise my wife that when we got his seasoned title we would done. Well that was a lie it was way to much fun. She went with me to the test and she had a ball so that made it ok when I said lets keep training and run him in finished this spring. She just said ok lets do it God I love that woman.
Doc I am third on the waiting list I called the day it filled up but no calls yet. No matter though I am going to sub him in for a female that came in. Just got to try to swing the time off of work at the last minute.
kwacksmacker wrote: title doesn't mean squat if they hand it to you
kwacksmacker wrote:i look for judges that test us. title doesn't mean squat if they hand it to you
HNTFSH wrote:It's normally Junior I would feel the pass rate is too easy. The theory is that because people are sometimes newer, the pass/fail rate should be relaxed in order to keep them excited about the sport and encourage participation.
While I agree new handlers should be given every advantage, positive experience and help...I don't agree the dog shouldn't be competent and show training aptitude and drive. Happens often in AKC a dog not worth it's weight in dog food passes juniors with poor performance then titles and gets put to stud. Junior being the only level ever run. A Junior title on a dog appears enough for some naive hunters to assume those pups will be 'good enough' for just a hunting dog.
A lot of people claim a JH title doesn't mean squat. In some cases they are right and in some cases wrong. Doesn't really depend on the title, depends on the dog.
Master a bit more complicated. However I recall hanging with a salty old group at one event where several complained all morning Saturday the judges were too easy. Most failed the second series.
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