Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby Spry Yellowdog » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:55 pm

my dog spit out a decomposing headless wet pigeon once and wouldn't pick it back up. The next day she learned to fetch slimy trout. any feather no matter how bad is better than scales and slime

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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby loner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:03 pm

what do ya'll think of a club that buys live birds for a training day the wk end before their test + then uses frozen used birds for the test?
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby Rick Hall » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:38 pm

Not much.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby HNTFSH » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:35 pm

We're a small club but test bird numbers are about 300 or so depending on test size. Can't imagine shooting more than 10% of that number the weekend before a test. Nor do we.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby loner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:40 pm

well that's exactly what happened at a test i went to last yr. they said frozen birds were fine at a test but i guess not fine enough for their members!
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby Force Fetch » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:53 pm

i willie 12 you should not be gassing the birds to start the test. Your initial birds should be shot and retrieved by a dog, inspected and used as all the subsiquent birds will be shot and retrieved. That also goes for wringing their neck or using a necker to get started. This will make the test even for all dogs in the field.
Birds used during the day should be kept in a duck rack to keep them as fresh as possible. I know it is a pain but it beats putting them in a sack to ferment. Just sayn'.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby TCFarmer » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:30 pm

loner wrote:what do ya'll think of a club that buys live birds for a training day the wk end before their test + then uses frozen used birds for the test?


Depends on how many they shot and how big the test/trial is. You'll need a few dead birds to get started.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby HNTFSH » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:57 pm

loner wrote:well that's exactly what happened at a test i went to last yr. they said frozen birds were fine at a test but i guess not fine enough for their members!


Must have been an HRC club.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby rivercountry » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:47 pm

My dogs first season test he ran perfect through the land series picking up the marks, diversion, and blind. When we ran the water series and it was the same till he picked up the last water mark which looked like it had been ran over by a truck. He return to heel and spit the thing out like it was chewing tobbaco juice at my feet. I alomost had a stroke and when I told him to fetch he looked at me like yea right. He did pick it up and deliver to hand but you could sure tell he didnt like it at all. We went back home and worked with some of the nasty birds I could find before the next one.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby CatSquirrel » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:43 am

We set aside about 8 freshly shot flyers in each stake at our FT's. These are brought home and frozen ASAP so we may use them as dead birds to start our next trial. Works for us.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby xtrema13 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:29 am

Does anyone have need for dead pigeons?


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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby O.D.Lid » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:53 pm

:biggrin: shoot a few pen raised just before the first test roll 'em around the landing zone a little and start the test! :biggrin: The second and third bird is freshly shot,thrown with a winger. The blind is freshly killed,too. Every dog gets at least one live bird. I've picked through the least destroyed birds after the trials and frozen them to train with.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby Rick Hall » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:04 pm

xtrema13 wrote:Does anyone have need for dead pigeons?


I keep homers for the dogs, and this is what we do with the dead ones:
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby rivercountry » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:13 pm

Rick Hall wrote:
xtrema13 wrote:Does anyone have need for dead pigeons?


I keep homers for the dogs, and this is what we do with the dead ones:
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They're excellent.

Rick those look tasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby i_willie12 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:29 am

Force Fetch wrote:i willie 12 you should not be gassing the birds to start the test. Your initial birds should be shot and retrieved by a dog, inspected and used as all the subsiquent birds will be shot and retrieved. That also goes for wringing their neck or using a necker to get started. This will make the test even for all dogs in the field.
Birds used during the day should be kept in a duck rack to keep them as fresh as possible. I know it is a pain but it beats putting them in a sack to ferment. Just sayn'.


What?? YOu know much about Hunt test??? ONly test that shoots birds is 1 series in MH...
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby HNTFSH » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:39 am

And 1 series in senior. Some do a flyer in junior, we don't.
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby i_willie12 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:45 am

HNTFSH wrote:And 1 series in senior. Some do a flyer in junior, we don't.


Forgot about senior... Thats on sunday at our test and im not around then!
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Re: Ducks used during Hunt test/Field Trials ?

Postby Labs » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:00 am

Force Fetch wrote:i willie 12 you should not be gassing the birds to start the test. Your initial birds should be shot and retrieved by a dog, inspected and used as all the subsiquent birds will be shot and retrieved. That also goes for wringing their neck or using a necker to get started. This will make the test even for all dogs in the field.
Birds used during the day should be kept in a duck rack to keep them as fresh as possible. I know it is a pain but it beats putting them in a sack to ferment. Just sayn'.


The grounds dictate whether or not a flyer is used...AKC Master and NAHRA Senior get the pick of the grounds, so that's usually where the flyers end up. When you have two or three series running at the same time, all stakes may not get a flyer...shooters, and throwers are usually in short supply...gassing or a needle with alcohol to the brain is how we do it...
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