bullet wrote:Kind of new to this side of the forum. I'm on my third lab so I'm no expert but have worked hard with all my labs and the 10 monther I'm working on now is the best bred dog of the bunch. Iuse pro trainers to refine my dogs as well. I don't put a whole lot of contol on my pup at that age. not to much obedience work leash work etc. My only concern is to get the dog "Giddy" for birds and retrieving. He was doing water retrieves at 60 days old and retrieving shot birds at 90 days. I don't think he'd even had a collar on at this point yet. He's a bird Freak. Continue working retrieves with the pup and when he looks not interested put the dummy up and only break it out when its time to play retrieve. At 7 months I began obedience and it was fairly simple. Force Fetch. Force Retrieve was next. You need some pigeons. I'm sure there will be plenty here who say obedience first, but I say "play the game" first and the game is finding and or bringing back birds. Give me an old dog from the pound and 3 weeks and he'll be obedient, but he won't hunt. Just my 2 cents
Again, Bullet and I are on about the same page. I would stay away for any real pressure with the Pinch Collar. I believe it is fine to show the pups "Who's Boss" but you are not wanting to do ANYTHING that would channel the excitement or energy at this point. He is still and PUP and everything should be bonding, playing, and keeping his retrieving energy up. IF, I were using a Pinch Collar at this point, it would be for leading ONLY. No Pressure (Jerking/Pulling) on that collar. Let him put all the pressure on himself by pulling at the lead. 6-7 months is plenty early to start with any kind of pressure. Be VERY careful with the pinch collar at this age. You will be setting a standard for how he will deal with pressure and corrections for the rest of his life. Don't want to create a SOFT Dog.
Even the high energy dogs don't need to be pressured at this age. They may require more effort to get them to do some of the obedience stuff. But REPS is the ticket to training at this age. He will also be just starting or getting ready to lose his baby teeth. So if he shuts down on retrieving in the next few weeks, don't worry about it. Just get away from retrieving all together for a few weeks.
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I will send you are Write-Up I send to all the new owners that get pups from me. It is more of how to start with the pups, but it may have some info that you could still use, and a different approach to some problems you may be having.
Also, I live in Canton, Texas and have a Dog Training Day every so often to let guys come down and get some ideas on problems they may be having, or see a few dogs that are hunters and rock'n already. It's like the Obedience. I have 0 tolerance on obedience, but this doesn't start until 6-7 months. All I try to do is have the pup understanding what each command is, not performing it like a robot, but an understanding that SIT means put you butt on the ground. Then in Formal Training you get to the place where there is a price for not performing.
Send me a e-mail if you might be interested in something like this, and I can let ya know when we are having a Training Day, or you can just drive out for a visit one weekend. We can take a look at the pup and talk Duck Hunting.
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