stanwood, i don't know, i never let mine start. The only time my dog ever barks is when i tell it to or someone rings the door bell.
At first when he was a puppy and would bark when he was put in his kennel, i would ignore him. If i came running in to see if he was alright or to tell him to be quiet, then he got what he was looking for. Attention. That is the dog training you. the dog barks and you come in and give it attention. the dog doesn't care if it is bad attention, it is just plain attention.
When ACE got older, and would bark at things or noises, i tell him "NO" . This kind of barking is not for attention, it is him trying to be the male with balls that he is. So when i tell him "NO" he understands that this means NO and not him getting attention.
I have probably just babbled and helped nothing. My advice is take him out have a good time with him at a creak or the park. Come home put him in the kennel and ignore him. I no nothing about E collars for barking, I don't like the idea of unsupervised electrical anything when it comes with my dog.
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