Puddle scum wrote:Now finally a decent response, however I agreed with the backing and ecollar already prior until he settles in. I don't know this trainer maybe didn't spend tons of time with him. She usually has 20 dogs on site. So I imagine less learning time over that period too. Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with most of what you say
Puddle scum wrote:Really Bluesky, I didn't come on this site to play semantics. I get it. It is a correction collar to be used only in the appropriate situation. Really are you here to help or play footsie. Because right now your about as useful as some members of our United States Congress. Speak double talk and never accomplish anything
dogyak wrote:It has nothing to do with how many dogs are on the site , and your pup wasn't properly FF . If the command was given , he would have gotten the object with or without collar , period . For the record , Dawn never said your trainer didn't get your pup the puppy shots . You kind of added that yourself . Heck , Stephen Durrence has over 60 dogs at his kennels , and gets the job done . It's no assumption , you were short change by your trainer . As I recommend , either find a new trainer or join a retriever club . You need someone to mentor you , those's DVD's don't show you what to do with many issues that might arise . You yourself needs to be trained .
Puddle scum wrote:Hello all, I'm new to the site
I have a 1 year old chocolate lab that was recently trained and forced fetched. The trainer said he was hard to force fetch and said she had to use 2 collars to do it as well as toe pinch method. The trainer went through a demonstration with me when I picked him up with an ecollar on and for the most part he did well, when he didn't respond to a command she shocked him, but also used praise too. Well once I got him home, the dog wouldn't work for me with the ecollar. He wouldn't fetch when I asked him too, I started with low intensity of a one with no result and gradually increased to no avail. He would either run away from me or lay down or run into his kennel. However when live birds are used he loves it, but I just can't get him to do bumper retrieval. Anyone have any ideas on getting him to get bumpers. I think his force fetch training was hard on him and he saw it as a negative thing anytime bumpers are used.
Dawnsearlylight wrote:Puddle, whose idea was it to send the pup to a trainer at 8 weeks? I guess I could see doing that if you were aiming for a FTCH and dealing with a BNT who does that type of training, but for someone like yourself it was more important to establish a bond at that critical age, get the pup socialized, start conditioning responses to commands via play "training", etc. At that age it would have been more productive for you and the pup to take weekly lessons with a good pro who could teach you how to be a trainer. The dog was born knowing how to be a dog, you are the one who needed education.
Regardless of what the trainer did or didn't do, you brought home a pup that was bonded to someone else and regarded you as a stranger, and proceeded to pick up his training without a clear idea of what you were supposed to be doing or what to expect from him. What other posters are trying to tell you is that is a recipe for disaster, as you are discovering. Shooting the messenger doesn't negate the accuracy of the message.
jng1022 wrote:It isn't a US title.
jng1022 wrote:You missed my point entirely.
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