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Postby Gooseboy » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:21 pm

Ok I now know i want a affordable reliable semi auto shotgun that shoots 3 1/2 inch shells. Which one should i get. Ive also heard Charles Dalys jam alot, is this true?

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http://www.spartangunworks.com/spr453.htm
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Postby Smackaduck » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:26 pm

I would buy the spartan. I have one that I have had for four years now, with no problems. Mine is not a spartan, I bought It before remington bought out baikal. But it is still the same gun. Very easy to clean, but you must keep it oiled down because it is not blued or coated unless they changed that. I love mine and it shoots very well.
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Postby casey_714 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:01 pm

I have never seen either. The only reason I could tell you to go with the Spartan is because it looks sweet!
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Postby vikingsfan » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:24 pm

I've heard to much bad about the charles daly plus i think the spartan looks alot better. Get the Spartan
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Postby bgoldhunter » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:24 pm

Spartan...that Charles Daily is JUNK!
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Postby plainsman » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:18 am

bgoldhunter wrote:Spartan...that Charles Daily is JUNK!

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Causing permenant flight delays
Callin' 'em in and knockin' 'em down
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Postby ol' yeller » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:35 am

Most definitely the Spartan. I personally have owned a Baikal MP-153 (which is the Spartan before Remington bought distribution rights and renamed it.) for two years and have shot everything from dove to geese with it. It has been a great gun especially for the price.
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Postby Gooseboy » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:40 pm

I've heard it has some sharp areas around the ejection port. Is this true?
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Postby ol' yeller » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:01 pm

Never heard of sharp areas near the ejection ports and I've read a lot about those guns. The best thing you can do is go to a gun shop and hold one for yourself.
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Postby Gooseboy » Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:34 pm

the other thing is. where can i buy some chokes for them?
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Postby ol' yeller » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:38 pm

The gun should come with 5 chokes. Colonial also sells aftermarket chokes.
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Postby Gooseboy » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:47 pm

i was just hoping maybe i could get some briley chokes or something. Also i havnt seen it at local gunstoors (havnt really looked) but do you think the stoors would order it for me? if so how much more would it cost?
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Postby ol' yeller » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:30 pm

I'm not sure if Briley is offering chokes for the Spartan yet. You can check their web site.

I really don't know how your local gun shops work, but here where I live they will order the gun with no additional cost. I know the shop I bought mine from ordered mine when they did their weekly gun orders so I wouldn't have to pay for the shipping.
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Postby texan68 » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:38 pm

I would save up and buy a Benelii or a Beretta
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Postby Gooseboy » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:05 pm

I definatly dont have that kind of cash or dicispline. :yes:
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Postby Canadian Quacker » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:28 pm

texan68 wrote:I would save up and buy a Benelii or a Beretta


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Nothing like saving up your money and buying a really good product. Thats what I did with my Benelli!

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Postby ol' yeller » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:39 pm

There's also nothing like paying $340 out the door for a well handeling, reliable 3.5" auto that goes bang for bang with a $1,400 SBEII. My buddy with the SBEII has now bought an MP-153 and leaves the SBEII at home.

Just remember... Don't knock it until you've tried it. :hammering:
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Postby QuackWacker08 » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:56 pm

The Spartan for 2 reasons....

1. The Charles feels...flimsy and unsolid. Feels fake almost.
2. The Spartan has 3 1/2...
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Postby Smackaduck » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:02 pm

Ol yeller I thought I was the only one who believed in that gun like you do. My buddy also shoots a benelli and as you said BANG FOR BANG. I cant justify an extra 1100 dollars when the MP153 performs as well as it does.
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Postby Canadian Quacker » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:09 pm

ol' yeller wrote: Just remember... Don't knock it until you've tried it. :hammering:


No, no...I agree that the two guns Gooseboy chose are two good duck poking machines. I am just saying that instead of settling for a gun just because it's the only one you can afford, save ur dough for the weapon that you really want. Unless of course you need a new gun right away.

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Postby ol' yeller » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:32 am

I definitely agree that if you're wanting a different brand of gun to save up for the one you want instead of setteling for something else. Otherwise you won't be happy. :thumbsup:

You have to be careful when talking up a Baikal/Spartan auto or even their O/U's. It seems you always get a crowd talking about how horrible and cheap they are. From what I gather most of the people who bash the gun have never shot one.

Gooseboy, if you do buy the Spartan make darn sure you clean that gun very well. Before they are sent to the U.S. they are packed with a rust inhibitor call cosmoline that is as thick as vaseline. 90% of the problems I've read about these guns are remedied when the new owner takes the entire gun down and cleans it better. Also, there is a break-in procedure that calls for shooting at least 150 rounds of shells with 1.25 oz. of shot or larger before attempting to shoot the light 1 oz. dove loads. Since it's duck season I'd just clean it up and start shooting.

smackaduck, the MP-153 is the best money I've ever spent on duck hunting equipment second only to my boat. I have shot mine anywhere from 2 degrees with a -5 windchill during a conservation snow goose hunt in Missouri to 98 degrees in the Arkansas river bottoms dove hunting without a hiccup. She spits out shells anywhere from the cheap 1 oz. dove loads you buy at Wal-Mart to the 3.5" 1550 fps duck shells. I am already planning on buying another after duck season "just to have". :mrgreen:
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Postby Smackaduck » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:56 pm

I agree I have had mine for four years and no problems. When I bought mine it only came with a wood stock, there was not an option for the synthetic, till about six months after I bought mine. So I will also be buying another one so I can have a synthetic. :thumbsup:
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Postby kcduckslayer » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:58 pm

Save you money and buy something better!!!
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Postby ol' yeller » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:03 pm

kcduckslayer, what necessarily constitutes a better gun? One that costs more or......one that costs more?

smackaduck, before you buy another one check with Remington. They may be able to sell just the composite stock. That is unless you're just finding a reason to buy another. In that case I'll take one with a composite stock. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Postby Gooseboy » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:09 pm

Just exzactly how much do i have to take apart? All i know how to take off is the stock, the barrrel, and thats it.
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