kcduckslayer, I re-read my post and it sounds a little rude and I didn't mean for it to come across that way. I am honestly just trying to figure out what makes a better gun than a Baikal/Spartan.
If you're into the fit and finish part of a gun then, yes, there are definitely a lot better guns out there for you, but should that be a deciding factor on what a great gun is? If you're wanting a hunting gun what does fit and finish matter?
All I'm trying to say is the phrase "You get what you pay for." doesn't apply to the Baikal/Spartan. The gun is worth more than twice what you pay for it. I would gladly (well maybe not gladly) pay $700 or more if they raised the price that much.
I have shot or own/owned 870's, 1100's, 1187's, A5's, Model 11's, SX2's, SBEI's, SBEII's, 935's, 835's and quite a few more. I have yet to shoot a gun that is as cost effective and reliable as the MP-153. Sure, a lot of those guns listed above look better. I won't deny that, but damn is it hard to beat a $340 auto that goes bang each and every time I pull the trigger no matter what kind of weather I'm hunting in. I save "pretty guns" for skeet shooting and dove hunting. Not for humping it in mud and water all day.