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10 Gauge?

Postby buster_22 » Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:58 pm

Hey I'm looking for a 10 gauge shotgun for waterfowl does anyone have any leads on any good deals. Which company do I go with???


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Postby macdaddy » Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:22 pm

Don't know of any specific deals, but...I can recommend a BPS. They're a bit tough to clean; though once you get the hang of it, no big problem. Morover, you can probably get one for under $600. Economical, nice on recoil. Believe me, buster_22 Browning pumps are the way to go for a 10 ga.
P.S: you're going to have a legion of posters telling you "forget the 10; get a SBE", or "a 935", or "an 835", or some other 12 3.5 nonsense :laughing:. Don't listen! Stick w/ that 10 ga.
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Postby buster_22 » Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:16 pm

Hey thanks for the info... I go hunting on lake erie and alot of guys I see have 10 gauges, I shoot a remington 12 gauge 2 3/4 and it just dosn't seem to do justice. Everytime I start working bird in, somebody around me skybusts and they end up dropping some. I'm sick of losing birds to bigger and better guns. I'm only 19 and 600.00 sounds like alot, have you ever seen used 10 gauges for cheap???? :thumbsup:
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Postby 98ramtough » Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:29 pm

Buster- The 10 guage won't really increase your shooting distance. Don't join the skybusters, find better places to hunt!

I am not knocking the 10 gauge, I am just discouraging buying a 10gauge to skybust.

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Postby buster_22 » Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:34 pm

Yeah I here what your saying, I have used a 12 gauge for awhile now and I think it's about time to trade up. (No skybusting here) :thumbsup:
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Postby aaron » Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:55 pm

10 ga. imo ,is the ultimate waterfowl weapon.What the 12 ga. is to the pheasant fields, the 10 ga. is to the waterfowler.
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10 Gauge?

Postby shayman » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:42 pm

I like my Browning Gold 10 Gauge Auto. It has worked well for me. I find that Winchester Supremes pattern the best in it.

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My 2 cents

Postby ohsobad_hunter » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:31 pm

I am with Mike on this one fellas, I think that you should not skybust birds in any circumstances. I believe that more that half of the fun of the hunt is watching the birds come down into your decoys, and the other half is watching the dog do his great work.
Hope that changes your mind on the 10 gauge.

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Postby 10ga. » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:31 pm

I have side by side 10 & I don't shoot any further than I would with my 12. 50 yards max!!! Anything longer than that & you just start to cripple birds! The guys are 100% correct.... a 10 won't give you anymore range, just a larger payload so you can up the shot size. A #2 pellet fired from a .410 @ 1400fps. has the same energy as a #2 pellet fired from a 10 @1400fps. So anyway.... I'm not trying to talk you out of a 10....(I like mine alot!) just use it wisely!

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10 gauge, or even a 12 gauge 3.5" is overkill for ducks

Postby PinTeal » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:55 am

Just my honest opinion here.

I've been hunting ducks for over 15 years (and I am only 22). I can remember when we would shoot ducks with 410's--back when lead was legal. Now, all we shoot is 20 gauge 3" mags w/ steel.

$ 600 is not cheap for a shotgun....but...then again...it is a cannon you are buying. And as you said, the shells are a bit more expensive.

We try and shoot all of our birds right about 25 yards and have no problems with our pea shooters.

I am with the rest of the guys...dont get the 10 gauge to shoot high--it is really ruining the sport IMHO--birds are just going to begin flying higher and higer and the cripple rate is through the roof as is.

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Postby donell67 » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:58 pm

buster 22. you might try pawn shops to find a cheaper 10 gauge. alot of gun dealers around here have used ones also. just make sure you check it out good before you buy it.
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Postby PinTeal » Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:33 pm

10ga. wrote:I have side by side 10 & I don't shoot any further than I would with my 12. 50 yards max!!! Anything longer than that & you just start to cripple birds! The guys are 100% correct.... a 10 won't give you anymore range, just a larger payload so you can up the shot size. A #2 pellet fired from a .410 @ 1400fps. has the same energy as a #2 pellet fired from a 10 @1400fps. So anyway.... I'm not trying to talk you out of a 10....(I like mine alot!) just use it wisely!

GOOD LUCK!



I am by no means an expert....hell, I shoot a 20 gauge.
But I gotta disagree with this here. I have seen ungodly far shots with a 12 gauge 3.5" that I would never even consider with a 20 gauge.
As I said, I am not an expert...but I would imagine that the 10 gauge will have more powder--or, atleast, could be reloaded "hotter."

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Postby mallardhunter » Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:47 pm

I would get a 12ga. 3.5inch, I think they shoot the same and the 12ga. is cheaper. I would get a remington 870express super mag. or get a Berreta Exterma. Both are good reliable guns. I love my Exterma, I also have a 870, they both are good.
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Postby Franchi » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:15 pm

I like the 10 ga. If I could afford one I would have one as well. I would like to have all the guns listed above. I think you will killl just as many with either gun listed above.

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10 ga is CLEARLY superior

Postby cajunpaul » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:52 pm

Do your homework. I can tell you from doing mine AND from personal experience in the field, the 10 ga is CLEARLY a better load. Yes, I do believe that you can be more effective killing ducks at a longer range than you can with a 12 guage, 3.5" included.

My only problem is that I don't shoot my BPS 10 as well since the sight plane is way different than what I grew up with, a Remington. I shot a Remingotn 10 ga auto last year a couple of times. If you can put up with the weight, it is AWESOME!

I agree that the fit of the gun is WAY more important than the difference between 10 and 12 ga. That is why I am shooting my Nova now!

No, you should NOT skybust. Period. But the fact is that if you hunt public land in North LA where I do, you are NOT going to have a chance to put ducks on the water before you shoot almost ever. You are lucky if you can get ducks to circle a few times before someone somewhere close shoots and scares them off. We are forced to shoot when they get below the tree line.
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Postby DUCK MAN » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:58 pm

HOW FAR CAN A 10 GAUGE SHOOT
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Postby DUCK MAN » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:59 pm

HOW FAR CAN A 10 GAUGE SHOOT
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Postby DUCK MAN » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:06 pm

HOW FAR CAN A 10 GAUGE SHOOT
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Postby DUCK MAN » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:24 pm

HOW FAR CA A 10 GAUGE SHOOT
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Postby mallardhunter » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:46 pm

They don't shoot lots father then a 12ga. it will give you about 10yards more. It also depends on how good of shot you are.
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Postby chrsjoy » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:04 pm

Do not know if you have bought a 10 guage yet. I have both the Remington SP-10 (Ithaca patents) and the Browning Gold, both semi-automatics. I got rid of my Benelli 12 guage 3-1/2" because I found it to be too light and I would point, fire and stop my swing with such a light gun. I traded it for the Browning Gold 10 guage. I regularly use the Gold with the Remington as my back up in case something happens to the Gold. Would highly recommend the Gold.

On windy, weather days when I know the birds will work close I fall back on my old reliable Browning A5 3" 12 guage or a Browning 20 guage o/u 3".

I shoot nothing but Bismuth or Hevi-shot (reloads) at waterfowl. Also you can, in fact, increase your killing distance if you choose to load a lighter shot column and push it faster. For example, I will shoot a heavier shot load with increased pattern density over decoys and a lighter shot load with increased range for pass shooting. With this in mind, you should never deviate from the loading recipes that you get from your supplier. I have found Precision Reloading, Ballistic Products, and Bucks Run to be the best source of reloading supplies and exhaustive reloading recipes.
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Postby vincentracingproducts » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:35 pm

DUCK MAN wrote:HOW FAR CA A 10 GAUGE SHOOT


I think a 10 gauge can kill way farther out there on average simply because there is much more shot.
at 70 yards smaller gauges shot patterns are pretty thin, so logically a more dense 10 gauge pattern is more likely to kill at longer distance.
I don't recommend shooting at birds way up high, but one day we hunted for several hours without seeing any birds, then my friend spotted a drake mallard way up in the stratosphere, must have been 120 + yards up but I decided to crack off a shot with my BPS 10 gauge just for the heck of it, led the bird by a long ways and dropped him dead with one shot, me and my friend looked at each other like ***? it was just regular #2 steel shot, nothing special. I don't know that I'll try it again any time soon, but it was wild to see a bird fall dead from that height. :withstupid:
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Postby tengoose1 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:55 am

What I really like is shooting those high singles and that really cool noise they make as they fall out of the sky, you know, sounds like bluebills buzzin the decoys. Oh and of course cant leave out the big splash they make and it also makes them easier to pluck. Most of the feathers should be gone from the spot that hits the water. I shoot a bps baby10 with a patternmaster. Two combinations you cant go wrong with.
I dont want to kill them all just the first one and the last one!
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Postby goosecaller » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:30 am

I have hunted geese with a remington sp-10 and I was very impressed. It is a great gun. But I don't think that I would ever have the need to take it to the swamp to shoot ducks. But sometimes those late season geese get pretty tough, so I could see why some would choose the 10 gauge. But typically I shoot my 870 12 gauge at all waterfowl and have had no problem knocking them down.
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Postby Citori12 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:43 am

the 10ga is a specialty gun. I have had the gold 10 and bps and am currently using an SP-10. I do not condone skyblastin but on my public properties when someone shoots at birds going into my decoys and they flare at 45 yards the ten gauge is the ticket. Here is why: 1) a ten gauge does not shoot any further than a 410 given the same pellet and velocity. What a 10 does for you is patterns #2 and larger shot extremely well. A backbored 3 1/2" 12 ga does not have the inside diameter a 10 does. So if your shooting big shot the ten is the way to go.
A 10 ga does not kill any further than any other shotgun and even though a 3 1/2" 12ga can shoot some identical payloads as a 10ga the 10ga shotgun likes BB,BBB and T where I have not had much luck with good patterns in a 3 1/2" 12. If you handload for a 10ga and are good enough it makes a wonderful marginal range shotgun. Just to clarify some things also any one who takes shots past 50 yards runs the risk of cripples with or without a 10ga. A shotgun is a short range weapon. But if you want to drop big honkers at the edge of your decoys the 10ga will out perform a 12 ga 3 1/2" gun...At least my 10ga 's outperformed a 835 and a BPS 3 1/2. 2 years ago I had this arguement with my buddy who was using a 3 1/2" 12ga gun. when the geese came in and we opened up the last goose leaving the scene at 45 yards went down with the 10ga and my buddy traded his 12 for a 10 and has been happy with it ever since. But do not go with a cheap spanish made shotgun buy a good one.
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