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Browning Gold

Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:54 pm

I recently acquired a Browning Gold 12 gauge 3 1/2 hunter. Love the gun except for how it shoots the light loads. I understand this is a hunting gun and meant to shoot heavy shells. But I'd still like to use it on clays. Any suggestions on what would help the gun actually eject the shells reliably? I'm using 1 1/8 oz. Remington and Winchester. Anybody have any experience with a Sure Cycle on these guns? Thanks guys!
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Postby Marshwalker » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:43 pm

Im not to sure. but maybe try using a stronger shell. more powder. weighs more. and a different and or popular brand shell. i have the same problem with my supermag. i cant shoot 3 1/2 out of easily so i had to switch shells. same thing with my 22.LR (10/22), i know its not a shotgun but has the same problem. i cant shoot CB's in it because they arent powerful enough for the gun to automaticlly eject them. So i have to use a strong bullet.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:05 pm

I realize that the heavier shells will make them eject. My duck shells eject with no problem. But like I said, I'd love to shoot it for clays. I've used just about every type of 2 3/4 1 1/8 shell. It just doesn't eject like the manual said it should. I was just wondering at how efficient the Sure Cycle was at fixing this problem?
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Postby pennsyltucky » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:23 pm

here is the problem with the 12ga 3 1/2. ive argued this point to friends before. u think ur buying the ultimate do-all gun, but really it cant. so it stinks, but ur gonna have to buy high brass shells to shoot clays with.

dont u have a real skeet gun to shoot? using a 3 1/2 12ga at the range really is the same thing as shingling a roof with a 10lb mini sledge and 16 penny nails.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:34 pm

I've got plenty of guns to shoot at the range for fun but I would like to practice with the gun I hunt with. Who knows, maybe it's just me who feels this way. Also, did you ever get around to saying what the problem actually was besides it stinks?
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Postby Oregon Honker » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:38 pm

try Remington NITRO 1- 1/8 load 7 1/2 shot :thumbsup:
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Postby Marshwalker » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:43 pm

I would contact the store you bought it from and ask their advice or refund. if it says it will shoot 2 3/4 it should.
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Postby goldhunter470 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:57 pm

I had the same problem with my Goldie. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Mine worked like a charm when I got it, no matter what I put in it. Then it started to jam with the 2 3/4". Then the 3", you get the picture. I had this gun torn up so many times I couldn't count. I called a local gunsmith and he said to take the butt pad off and really clean it. It works like new. Hope this helps.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:10 pm

I appreciate all of the info. However, I just bought mine Saturday evening and have barely had 100 rounds through it, and it started to be fussy with the 2 3/4 on the 7th shell. Just trying to figure out why I paid so much for a gun that doesn't work like it should. :help:
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Postby Oregon Honker » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:12 pm

Dressed2Kill wrote:I would contact the store you bought it from and ask their advice or refund. if it says it will shoot 2 3/4 it should.


Yea right when you buy a gun it's yours no refunds in the US Ibought a gun last year and the damb thing has been back to the factory 3 times i tryed to return it the first day i shot it and they told me absoulity NO RETURNS in the united states Rember any gun is registered to you right from the start unless you buy black market or from a privet seller
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Postby steelcommander » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:29 pm

You have a common problem, duckbuster06. Autoloading shotguns require a chamber pressure of about 8,000 psi to fully cycle a load. A lot of trap loads are under that. It's all in the combination of components used and the speed of the load. What was the dram equivalent of those loads? If it was 2 3/4 dram I would switch to 3 dram. Also, that problem can be eliminated by reloading your own shells. :thumbsup:
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Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:38 pm

Some shells were reloaded and the dram was 3. Maybe it just needs to be broken in?
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Postby pennsyltucky » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:45 pm

duckbuster06 wrote: Also, did you ever get around to saying what the problem actually was besides it stinks?


the problem stinks....... not ur gun.

take off the recoil pad and try a tighter choke.also, if u can find the rem 2 3/4 cheapo loads with the high brass and 6pt crimp, u shouldnt have any more trouble. and they are still cheap.

estate high brass loads arent too expensive either if u can get em in bulk

also since ur wanting real hunting practice the faster ones are a little closer to shooting fast steel loads.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:16 pm

I just checked the gas piston and it was incredibly filthy. The thing was almost completely black. Granted I never cleaned it when I received it, but could 100 shells and not cleaning the factory grease off of it cause it to get so dirty? I almost hope so! It would solve my problems.
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Postby goldhunter470 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:24 pm

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Postby goldhunter470 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:25 pm

I know 100 rounds doesn't seem like a lot but I HAVE to clean mine every time I take it out. :eek:
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Postby steelcommander » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:18 pm

Yeah, I think a cleaning should do the trick. Also, Remington DriLube works great to help prevent a build-up of "gunk" in your gas system.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:23 am

Thanks for all the info guys. Don't know what I'd do without yall :salude:
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Postby Merganser » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:32 pm

Duckbuster: I bought a SureCycle for my Gold. It includes a light spring for light loads and a heavy spring for heavy loads. I have not tried the light spring as yet so cannot tell you it would solve your problem. It is more trouble than I want to change the spring just to shoot clays.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:21 pm

Yea I'd have to agree. I just got mine (Sure cycle) in the mail today and looked at the direction. I didn't realize that simply do it yourself maintenance included heating a part of the gun with a blow torch!? Did you install your's yourself or did you take it to a gunsmith?
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Postby duckbuster06 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:39 pm

Installed my SureCycle today and found out that it did nothing to help the cycling problem. The gun releases the shell in the mag way too early and it causes it to catch the other spent shell on the way out. It even hangs up on my duck shells now. I can understand why people hate Browning. I bought the gun halfway relying on the name. Guess I was wrong. This will be my last Browning ever.
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Postby Merganser » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:49 am

Whoa, easy there Duckbuster. You sound exasperated with your gun. I have to admit I am disappointed in my gun right now too but have sent it to Browning Arms for repair and will cool my jets until then. I have had my Browning Goldhunter for 10 years and have hunted it pretty hard. It has been a great gun until the past year. I think my aluminum reciever has wear in it that is causing my problem. I talked to Browning and they said they had made improvements to the gun. We will see when I get it back. The difference in my gun and yours is mine is a 3" model and not 3-1/2". That possibly allows me to shoot light loads better. I do not think the SureCycle did me any good and I have taken it back out. Go online and e-mail Browning and tell them you situation. They might have a cure. Good luck.
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Postby duckbuster06 » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:15 pm

Not finding an email address on the site. Can anyone help me with the email address?
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Postby Merganser » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:39 pm

duckbuster, sorry I confused you re: e-mail. I went to Browning's website: www.browning.com. got the phone number and called them. Their no. is 800-322-4626.
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Postby Joel » Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:16 pm

I have a 3 1\2 browning gold I reload all my sporting clay loads ------------- a 1\18 being pushed out at 1310 ft per sec never had a jam as long as you keep the shot gun clean. just my two cents
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